197 iLevel Cap Casual PVP

Are you really that clueless?

Pointing out what I would say if I was insulting him or her is giving him or her an example.

Again there is zero rating requirement for casual I have a priest friend that’s 2300 that plays maybe once a week and is the definition of a casual.

Stop thinking casual means bad.

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of people who participate in rated? over the course of a season it’s at least 50%

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well but that’s what we don’t want, we don’t want people to leave randoms bgs; burst this expansion is brutal then add the item lvl gap we have in pvp
 it’s good to have 29 ilvl in raids dificulty but not in pvp

This will change maybe next patch or next expansion, blizzard always changes things and pvp people should support something like this else blizzard will make something worst like templates or reduce pvp ilvl overall like in next patch (pvp gear lose 6 ilvl points in all content but pvp)

Trolls gonna troll. I just love how they defended going into a duel with you by saying that Afflick Lock is bad in PvP when there’s an overwhelming advantage in that DoTs can only be cleared by bubble. Seriously all they have to do is pop your bubble and then hit a talent ability that increases damage taken by said DoTs and then gateway back and forth to get distance. We only have so many abilities as Melee to attack at a distance.

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Seems like ilevel brackets (maybe 2 or 3) would just solve the problem without needing to mess with gear at all.

You do realize that just because you repeat this over and over doesn’t make it true right?

I love how clueless to the game you actually are when you post something that clearly shows you have zero idea what you’re talking about.

Affliction isn’t even the PvP spec right now as Destro is actually better. Affliction is only played in RBGs due to how broken sacrolash is.

States that Afflick isn’t the PvP spec right now, then lists a rated PvP mode that Afflick is used in. LoL you really are trying to justify you knowing the game better by posting things that negate your argument. I may not know the game as well as you clearly do, but at least I’m not using “No, you” arguments.

Seriously, if you know the game so well get off the forums and show us what your made of. Unless you were the one that was carried and that’s why you’re so sensitive.

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I know you’ve already received some responses that have put you in hot water for this comment, but I’m going to add another to the barrel.

It doesn’t. If anything, the massive gear disparity is turning casuals away from PvP. There has never been such a tremendous item level difference as there is now, and it’s making casual PvPers like me—who have done just fine for 15 years up until recently—question if we still have a place in this game.

Casual PvPers have been completely forgotten and neglected in SL. It’s really disheartening.

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I don’t need to justify anything. Your statements and logs show you don’t have any clue what you’re doing. I was just trying to explain it so maybe you could comprehend it.

Sacrolash is the only reason anyone plays affliction in RBGs. It’s not because affliction is actually good.

Bad and lazy players not casuals.

According to your profile: you have 0 rating in PvP. Which tells me that you only do random battlegrounds. Unless this isn’t your main toon


Oh and let’s not even get into your raid progression. 5/10M? If you were as good as you say you are you’d be 10/10M. And you’ve only timed two 15 keys.

You see you can dunk on me about not being the best DPS or being a bad player, but in comparison, I’m actually playing the game I say I’m playing.

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2300 Rating is not casual, lol! Let me ask you what I asked someone else.

What % of players get 1800 let alone 2300?

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LOL, no it isn’t not even close.

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You have not heard of the US Open or the Masters?

Competitive tournaments? No, they do not.

And that’s fine. There are many games that are designed to be lobby pvp games. Many have better balance. If that “jumping right in” is the style people want, I understand. But those players have to understand mmorpg are not the right genre for that.

Yes. They have specific interests that usually involve afking in town and queuing games with multiple alts and prefer to spend as little as time possible doing thinks like questing, professions, world content, etc.

It may work for them, but that is the wrong design for an mmorpg. We tried that in WoD. It worked for players interested in alt/ main armies, raid loggers and lobby pvpers. The rest of the game died.

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Look at achievements this is my raid toon.

Actually 6 of 10. I just dced and didn’t get credit for the kill.

Like I said I am a casual player that only raids 2 nights a week. If I didn’t have a 65 hour a week job and a family I could find a mythic ce guild. I just don’t have the time too.

I have only timed two 15s because I don’t care about getting KSM. I do my weekly 14 for the vault and that’s it.

What do I not play that I have said I play?

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/stormrage/snozy#difficulty=4&bybracket=1

My logs if you actually want to go down that road.

Competitive tournaments don’t put pros vs amateurs :roll_eyes: in any sport.

Yeah, you know, pvping.

So what I’m hearing is PvP was fine like that and the rest of the game had holes. Funny how that works. Almost as if they introduced m+ and some other things to address PvE issues.

You do realize rating is skill based not time based right?

If he only plays one night a week if he plays at all that is by definition casual.

This is a terrible argument. Getting rating is a skill investment not a time based investment.

Just because someone raids mythic or is 2300 rating doesn’t mean they aren’t casual. Not everyone is terrible at this game and needs 800 games to break 1400.

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Fun fact for ya.

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You need to google the Olympics.

You are right. They added legendaries, M+, artifacts, wf/tf, the mage tower, and world content to fill the wholes. But this game was designed as a continuous world. PvP and PvE had crossover. WoD did not. Turning each form of content into a sandboxed mini-game is the wrong design.

Terribly designed system. You grind tens of thousands in honor for full 197 & then you get 1 shot by a Starsurge or Final Reckoning / Templar Verdict.

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