I agree that 1800 is easily achievable in rbgs with how the rating is right now, the problem is that having entire sets of gear locked behind rating on top of massive gear ilvl discrepancies is bad design. Getting 1800 in rbgs should give you faster conquest gear that has a baseline ilvl regardless of someones rating
Also next season rbgs are likely going to be dead. You are not going to get rbg groups unless you’re running with a dedicated guild or friends group. I’ll be really surprised if alliance even has 5-10 groups in lfg next season. So rbg gearing is not a viable solution to doing random bg without a 26 ilvl discrepancy
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That would make pvp very much enjoyable therefore it won’t happen. The issues with scaling in the past were the awful time to kill and horrendous stat weights they gave certain specs/classes. This would be a perfect time to implement scaling and just leave stats alone, scale only ilvl and be done with it so casuals can enjoy the game.
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No I’m serious. I never really did RBG’s at all before this expansion, but it was pretty quick to gear up that way. I came late to the expansion and it worked really well.
So let’s get this straight…You, a player that doesn’t even have 220 gear
Is recommending that someone that is getting destroyed in unrated PVP, move into rated PVP so they can get that “easy” 220 gear.
Come on…do you even read what you post?
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Do unrated BG’s have a matchmaking system or is the queue just first come, first serve?
I don’t think anything should stop a top geared PvP player from casual BG matches, but they shouldn’t be matched against an entire team of fresh 60’s or players who hit the “casual level cap” of around 200. They should be matched against players of similar skill and gear level.
But if you looked hard enough you will actually find said people that is willing to help you out, without the needs of paying someone to do it for you
I gotten AOTC without a guild during nya’lotha
I also managed to find some nice people to let me join their mythic pug for the first 3-4 bosses before I found my former guild on moon guard
Anything is possible
Yes that’s why there’s guilds that help you
Casuals shouldnt need to be carried to get gear that allows them to play random bgs lol
In mop and wod everyone could earn conquest gear and enjoy random battlegrounds, whether they were gladiators or 1400 casuals. This current design is bad
If you go on the pvp subforum there are threads from rank 1 gladiators and arena world championship competitors also saying its bad. Its not just a “git gud” issue
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And with that I give up.
If anyone is keeping score, this guys unquestionable defense of this game has convinced me that it is not worth arguing with him.
Good day to you sir. I now understand why you are a meme on these forums
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The problem is pugging for RBGs. I like doing RBGs but getting into a group takes between 10~20 minutes. And usually, If the group loses the 1st game everyone leaves.
The higher I got this season in RBGs was 1427. Then my rating started to go down the hill and I stopped queing for groups.
Uhhh, no. People take time and dedication to gear themselves and you want to trivialize their work because you can’t or refuse to put in equal effort?
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That is literally what I just said! What am I saying wrong Yesuna?
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Sorry, only read OP and commented. I didn’t know you already said it.
No I mean like why can’t anyone see that if you really want your best gear possible, do whatever it takes you’re capable of doing to get it
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Does it? Or does it funnel nearly all of the leveling/gearing bots into one bracket, and people who are actually playing the game into another?
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Sooo, all casual PVP’rs are not actually playing the game…
Interesting take
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That isn’t even what the issue is. You didn’t actually read the OP. That’s why your response is so out of place. You’re having your own conversation over there.
Haha that’s funny.
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Ion: i can’t. i gotta balance conduit energy, covenant abilities, and my all-time favorite raids! RAIDS RAIDS RAIDS ONLY!! world of raids-craft whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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He wants higher geared players to be shamed that they have an advantage over lower geared players by putting a handicap on them
Is it their fault they have better gear because they earned it?
That’s your interpretation of it,
and that’s your problem. 
The only reason I replied to your post is that hopefully someone else will read it and know better to fall down that rabbit hole.
Have a great day!
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