Conduits don’t go to 210, it’s 200, 213, and 226.
Because I’m not breaking any rules. Stating my opinion isn’t abusive. I said the person isn’t playing the full game. How in the world is that abusive or condescending?
I have said ways to help. The issue is that valor isnt useless like they are claiming. It’s only useless if you’re not putting any effort into keys.
Getting all 10 mythic done at a level 5 allows you to upgrade to 200/207. All mythic done at 10 allows upgrades to 213. All 15s timed allows upgrades to 220. The valor system isn’t useless unless you put forth the effort into the system.
You’re entitled to your opinion but you would be very wrong. I’m not bothered by these posts. People can have any opinion they want too. However when I disagree with a point I’m going to post my opinion. It’s what the purpose of the forums is for.
I think people complaining about a system they put no effort into don’t have a valid opinion.
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Can you stop using the word casual because you appear to not know what that means.
The correct word that you’re looking for is leisure or unrated players.
Casual doesn’t mean you’re good or bad, it just means the amount of time you have to play.
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I think we overlook that Random Bg’s are in fact a gearing mechanism put in place by Blizz. Its also a place to hone/develop skills.
It’s not the ungeared/unskilled who don’t “belong” in Randoms, it’s the ROLF-stomping Glads. Or even worse, a premade of ROLF-stomping Galds.
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Where did i say casual means you are good or bad?
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yes. because neutering Ilvl in PvP was a very welcomed feature when they tried it in legion.
oh wait no, it wasn’T
You’re implying only casuals play random BGs and are undergeared and that people with high ilvl aren’t casual.
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I think the gap needs to be shrunk.
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Of course you would enjoy 1-shotting people, who wouldn’t? What does that have to do with the enjoyment of thousands of other people that can’t 1-shot others?
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The way MMR and gearing works, this rarely happens in rated PvP. More, I don’t find rated PvP always enjoyable. I do it out of necessity to get gear. What I really enjoy is the chaos of unrated PvP but I want gear to matter because this is an MMO RPG.
It’s not enjoyable that’s why they should git gud (get gear).
I feel like they should do it like in Destiny. Where casual modes had no ilvl advantages (scaling). And if you wanted to do a more hardcore mode then you would have ilvl advantages. I wish they would do that for bgs. It isn’t really fun. It’s a meat grind until you actually get gear. That isn’t really fun. Legion had good casual pvp, the only problem was not being able to pick the stats you wanted. If our gear scaled to a certain ilvl that would be better. No op healers that you can’t kill our out damage their healing.
Forcing people to do arena/rated bgs just to have achance at winning in random battle grounds is just plain bad design. And forces people to want boosts.
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It’s better than making boring content which is what random BG’s would turn into if gear didn’t matter. Look, if you don’t want gear advantage in your PvP, you are playing the wrong game.
NAh Blizz likes when carry casuals annihilate casuals
I am not downplaying the difficulty of a mythic, but the gearing system is like capitalism. There is a certain point where your skill level is overshadowed by having the larger sum of stats than the next guy.
So basically the more money you have the more power. In this case the “money” is the ilvl resources.
I’d also like to add that if you’re not writing the strategy guide on how to win a mythic raid, you are not really privy to assume you’re earning squat. You’re just riding on the coat tails of the ones before you.
I don’t pvp in this game anymore because it’s not really casual friendly. I go to overwatch where I don’t have to grind gear every single season.
Honestly if they added a no ilvl advantage queue for pvp that would revitalize the game for me. I stay away from it with all the arena players in their camping gys…
And I am not interested in arena to get gear just to be decent at a random bg. I used to like playing them. The classic av event is scaled and fun.
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A golf bag has 14 clubs. There are some limitations in design set down by the usga, like head size and cor, but the rest is pretty much fair game.
There is a significant difference between tour product and retail product.
No one has a gear advantage. Everyone has the same opportunity to win games, gain rating and purchase gear.
Charity tournaments, sure. They are the equivalent of the brawls. Actual events are either flighted or have no handicap.
I never implied that. How can you get that from me. It makes zero sense for me to make a forum post about 226 players going into random bgs and then also saying that only casual players play random bgs. I think you are looking for controversy in my words where it does not exist when there is plenty more to actually discuss and oppose. I suggest you drop that part of your claim.
Gear does matter in a mmo. Especially rated pvp gear. Gear will also matter even if they level lock random bgs to 197 because there will be other players who are less than 197, many ding level 60 with 140 ilvl. That is about a 57% power level difference or higher if Ions 1% claim is to be considered truth. So gear will still matter in all aspects of the game.
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Is there really though? A pro is gonna be able to pick up an amateur set and hit a pretty close score to his regular set. An amateur isn’t going to magically knock a stroke off every hole with a pro set.
Wrong man. If you start mid or late expansion or are simply trying to play an alt every single bracket you try to climb to will have higher gear than you. So if you’re a 1800 player you have to play like a 1900 player to get it. If you’re an 1800 player you will play vs 2100/2400 people in wpvp and random BG’s. The point of this thread is why are 2400 people allowed in random BG’s when the point of them is for people to collect a 197 set.
Any tourney where pros and amateurs are together the amateurs get the bonus. Not the pros.
But yeah keep pretending like wow isn’t a** backwards for any sort of PvP competition real life or other PvP video games. Pros should play at a disadvantage not the other way around.
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So you want to exclude players who have higher ilvl just to make it fair for people who are still gearing up. Because that is what would happen if you take away their gear advantage.