15 renown for flying is ridiculous

Also, Dreamsurge Learnings is a thing.

There is suppose to be something coming along, field stones or some such thing (I think they are already there) which is suppose to help with the renown grind.

By the way HMS Renown is a common name for British warships

Or the 10% Wickerman buff we can get RIGHT NOW during Hallow’s End.

Or the 10% Darkmoon Faire buff we’ll have during the first week of the patch.

Yeah. There’s no amount of catchup that’s ever going to realistically be added that will enable you to get exalted without actually playing the game. (which is probably what the gnome wants TBH)

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Which disabilities work with old flying but dont work with dragon riding ?

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Y’all out here getting this upset over being able to unlock the ability to fly at less than a third of the speed of the flying you get within 30 minutes of hitting level 60.

This.

I think the reason why PF still exists is due to the following:

  1. Blizz wanted to force people to engage with the DR system. You cannot do that if players can simply ignore it effectively.
  2. This expacs big new feature is all about DR. Allowing players to simply opt out, would render one of the main selling points moot.
  3. Perhaps they thought it would curb gather node botters? (Hint: It didn’t).
  4. Malice?
  5. Possibly a legitimate attempt to bring old air swimming into the current generation by making it more engaging and realistic?
  6. Complacency due to having PF for so many years now that Blizz just thinks it’s “normal” even though no other MMO has a similar mechanic?
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Motion sickness is one of the big ones for Dragon Flying
even with the changes they did too DF there are players that can’t handle the flying dragons movement they physically get sick where as normal flying doesn’t effect them as much


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New players start at level 1 on exiles reach, I don’t think this affects them at in any way what so ever. Why do people constantly go this new latest expansion thing is unfriendly to a new player while listing off something that has 0 relevance to them.

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Punishing returning players is just wrong. Flat out wrong.

DF needs more players to stay.

:surfing_man: :surfing_woman:

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Look at what they did to flying at level 30 & 40. Automatic and free.

I don’t get why people insist Blizzard would have no choice but to charge everybody millions of gold and other silly claims. They can decide exactly how they want it to be. They did exactly that, making disabled players earn back a removed accommodation by requiring them play the game extensively without it.

You’re right. New players coming out of starting zones with ilvl 4 gear, while level 10 heirlooms are ilvl 26 and level 10 dungeon gear is ilvl 33 is the real problem that is making new players quit.

Here’s my dragonriding story: During the first free Dragonflight trial, I got a character as far as the entry to dragonriding quest. They gave me a needlessly long list of needlessly complex instructions to glance at and instantly master. I just figured I’d try to yolo my way down to the ring, because that’s not how I learn. The dragon didn’t seem to be aimed straight at the ring. Attempting to adjust it made me enter another dimension and finally gently settle down to the ground, nowhere near the platform, and with no obvious way to get back to it. I figured it would take me a while to figure it out, and I had better things to do in the game than fight over trying to learn something that now looked like it was going to be a PITA. I hearthed out of there and didn’t go back.

Last week I logged into that character for the first time in months. Now there’s an icon that you can click to return to the starting point. It was a quit moment for a lot of people, apparently. Too little too late, guys.

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There is rep in the new zone part of the patchfinder achieve so technically no one has the reps completed so at this point people can drop the you can have it quickly by playing the game.

Unless you play the game from the future and come back through time as a time traveler.

:surfing_man: :surfing_woman:

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and then whining would begin that gold is hard to get. So really, just make it free, and maybe the whining won’t happen at all.

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Oh, come now.

Anybody who thinks the whiners wouldn’t still whine after it’s free, just hasn’t been reading enough whining on this forum.

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Also ridiculous for motion sickness players and those who have hand coordination problems.

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I gotta tell ya
 with all the people who complain about everything, and all the people desperately looking for something - ANYTHING - to complain about, and all the people grasping at straws for something to complain about with dragonflying, and given how often people on this forum just flat-out lie about everything
 I think a lot of people just don’t believe them.

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You sound desperate to find an excuse to complain about real people who won’t conform to your preconceived notions of how they should be forced to think and play. Looks like you are desperately grasping at straws to keep that humanity buried deeply within your cold, black heart. And the “other people flat-out lie” claim, just lololol. Look in the mirror.

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Its easier than what they usually do. Exalted with every rep, entirety of the story done. Don’t like it? There’s a plus side! You already have better flying.

Yeah no
 dragon riding is their way to replace flying.

I have motion sickness issues and coordination issues. Raids are harder than dragon riding. It’s a non issue that people use for convenience to have a reason to complain. Are there some that can’t handle it? Sure. I guarantee if it’s that bad, they can’t raid or do mythics. If they can, they are lying about it and just hate the new system.

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