1.12 AV is a huge, huge mistake

Indeed

no way dude no way i dont think in any way thats the way

I disagree

I really hope AV will be more than just a rep grind and forget BG. Sadly that’s really all the 1.12 version is good for.

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You are not wrong.

Now that the forum is finally letting me post (despite being level 20 for a few days now) I just want to say that I hope for the original AV. I didn’t start playing WoW until mid BC, but one of my earliest memories of WoW was watching my dad play AV for hours at a time, then hop off to do something, or eat dinner. And afterwards, he would go back and keep going. When I got to WoW, AV was changed almost completely, and it made me sad. Now that classic is coming, I hope that I get the chance to experience that game my dad used to play. I understand that people are saying they don’t have time anymore, so I agree that a fair compromise would be to make old-school AV an event, maybe a week long, once a month or something. I personally have no interest in playing the modern day AV, since to me it always felt so empty. It felt like it should be more, because it was originally more.

PS. For those wondering why someone who has been playing since BC is only lvl 20, it is because I used to play on my dad’s account. He has since stopped playing, and I decided that for classic, maybe it was time for me to get my own account.

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To use the 1.12AV is just laziness. Blizzard, you can use the 1.12 game client, that’s fine, but the 1.12AV is not the Classic World of Warcraft that we all know and love.

We want that immersive experience that comes with collecting hides, collecting enemy parts, blood, summoning bosses, and to rescue the pilots. That was when AV was something truly special, something that took strategy and teamwork before it became a casual REP-grind fest of sheer bordom completely void of personality.

Please reconsider this.

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Classic Legionnaire here. Not coming back this time around since in the ensuing years since WoW was released I’ve been dx’d with Multiple Sclerosis so I’m no longer able bang away at PvP like I used to, but I wanted to throw my support to you for the earlier versions of AV.

It wasn’t until one of the above posters listed each patch notes showing how MUCH was lost from AV could I really appreciate how much was truly LOST.

AV was a TEAMWORK event. When it was same realm vs realm we all seemed to know our positions and go to them. As more and more changes happened (and esp. when x-realms were added to it) it became a free-for-all. 20 people sat AFK in the cave, no one defended, no one capped bunkers or gy’s and the remaining 20 or so actually playing (on Horde side) ran merrily past the Alliance on the Field of Strife straight to a turtle on the bridge.

That was no fun (well, ok, it was a little fun). What I’m saying is, it went from this huge cooperative, goal-oriented event to a "I might as well just consider that I’m now a solo cog in a never ending grind.

I absolutely support an earlier version of AV over the mess that came later on.

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I can’t post links, but “mmo-champion Patch 8.2 Hotfixes - August 2nd, WoW 15th Anniversary Preview, Arthas Statue” on google, the 1st on the list :

Classic Alterac Valley PvP Event
During the 15th anniversary you will be able to queue for a classic version of Alterac Valley that is identical to how it was when it initially released during Vanilla.

Classic won’t have an earlier AV version but Retail is ?
It must be a joke, right ?

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Maybe it’s a hint at things to come!

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Having not played Vanilla I always heard the stories about the long drawn out AV battles and lamented the fact I never got the experience it. After they announced classic I was over the moon with the specter of getting to do an OG AV.

Now I am dissapointed beyond belief. It will by no means stop me from playing classic but it certainly knocked my excitement way down.

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I don’t pvp but even I know 1.12 AV isn’t what generally comes to mind when ya think classic AV. Make this museum more authentic and enjoyable by including a more epic version of AV please and thanks.

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This would indeed be disappointing.

Lots of back and forth arguing in this thread but at the end of the day my sense is that most players want an AV that best reproduces what we appreciated so much back in the day. I’m not sure 1.12 meets that criteria.

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Identical?

Well, that’s… kinda exciting… maybe they’ve been secretly working on it all along but didn’t want to get our hopes up until they were sure.

I’m starting to feel hyped again!

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I enjoy the PvE race, but yeah it’s not really a battleground. I’d be happy if we could just get the original version except without those crappy invisible landmines.

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+1 :dash::dash::dash::dash::dash::dash::dash:

I can’t stress enough how important this is to the Classic PvP scene. 1.5 AV needs to be in Classic at some point. Even if it’s just a temporary event people would love it.

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bumping and supporting :mage:

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This is why I won’t try or recommend friends to get back into game

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1.12 is just the ideal underlying game client -the core if you will.
That said, 1.12 AV was the worst form of AV and to truly represent classic, it should use 1.5 as others have stated.

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