1.12 AV is a huge, huge mistake

Months. But the timeframe is irrelevant.

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BTW they kept loot trading in they just modified it to work more in line with classic.

Whereas with AV we’re getting the authentic vanilla experience.

Yeah, I know. And, again, that is irrelevant.

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What exactly is irrelevant? You are the one who brought up loot trading.

It’s not difficult to follow. Re-read my last few posts.

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You were the one who brought up loot trading. A new feature and one which blizzard didn’t remove but merely modified.

1.12 AV is an authentic experience and one which blizzard not changing is very much in line with classic.

As an example of blizz making a change to previous statements.

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Yep and you picked a bad example, they made a change to a new feature they are adding.

Whereas in the case of AV they are using 1.12 an authentic vanilla experience and very consistent with everything they’re doing for classic.

If you say so.

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Hmm… blizzard has made it real clear they consider 1.12 the final version of vanilla and what they’re going for.

Do you not understand that?

You’re apparently still missing the point. Did you care about 1.12 when you were arguing against spell batching?

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If you want to get back into the reasons why 1.12 AV is better than previous versions, which blizzard has also stated they think and is why they’re going with it, we can do that too.

Im’a gonna eat my popcorn while I wait for the link to that.

They stated that some npcs were “too hard”, something else was “gross”, and that 1.12 “gives them clarity”.

From the blizzard post, these changes are improvements.

It gives us several early improvements to the BG that we’re glad to have in place. Early on in AV, there were too many NPCs and they were too hard to kill. By 1.12, many had been removed and NPC health was brought down to a reasonable level.

The difference here though, is that Loot Trading wasn’t in 1.12. They’ve shown willingness to change things that they’re introducing: Loot Trading, Progressive Release Patches, Layering instead of Sharding etc…

Aside from the mount costs, they haven’t shown any inclination to use a different patch by the end, than 1.12.

I think this is maybe the fist time I have ever replied to a thread in the wow forums ever but I just had to specifically log in and say I 100% agree. I want as close to classic as we can get and that definitely includes those amazing 1-3 day long AV battles. Thanks for highlighting this issue and I am confident in saying given the attention this thread has garnered blizzard will recognize and make the necessary changes.

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Agree, and believe people would thoroughly enjoy a longer AV experience. Difficulty and the challenge was part of what made it so epic. The ability to go in at level 50 (51?) and do quests that helped push the flow of battle in a positive direction was awesome. Maybe it doesn’t need to be brought all the way back to an entire weekend event, but what it has evolved into isn’t what it was ever envisioned to be.

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The level bracket and ability to quest to contribute really spoke to how it was originally designed to mirror an actual open world zone. Without the time to complete them, I see them gathering dust.

Here’s hoping that the recent 15th Anniversary mention of old AV is an indication that they are listening and will allow us to get our early AV fix in Classic.

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Was hoping I would be able to make a collection of horde pieces.

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