Exalted? Who cared about that? AV was a way to generate honor for pvp titles and the gear.
i, for one, would like my frostwolf howler ![:wink:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/wink.png?v=6" ":wink:")
yeah idk if people actually want 10-20 hour av, these days people would just rage quit and it would end because it would be 40 v 20
Leaving means not achieving victory, but instead succumbing to defeat. Knowing you can leave is irrelevant if you’re unwilling to run from the fight. And since I’m unwilling, I would certainly never pick a fight that I knew could last that damn long.
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The battle still goes on without you, you know. It’s about taking part in something that’s bigger than you, that’s the whole point.
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What does that have to do with hours, or days long gameplay? It’s unrealistic and unecessary.
their reference client is 1.12. I don’t believe they have the source code for oldschool AV
I’m just glad that whatever version we get won’t be a war front.
(Also 1.12 is going to be as popular as retail’s AV)
I did which is why unlike you I don’t lie and claim every game was a zerg.
You can do that in any version of AV, just quit the BG before the match is over. You don’t like actually finishing what you start right? then that shouldn’t be a problem.
Yes, battles that last for hours or days and go on without you. Completely unrealistic.
There are already two BGs that cater to people who just want fast honour. AV is supposed to be different.
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And 1.12 AV is different than either WSG or AB.
I mean. It was changed in Vanilla for a reason. I suppose you want to be continuously chasing rank 14 for Grand Marshall and High Warlord weapons in your hours/days long AV as well?
Watching all these streams makes me more confident that reverting nerfs to these NPCs wouldn’t do much. If people wanted to zerg an earlier version of AV in Classic, they’d do it.
People are rolling through Scarlet Monastery with broken gear, pulling huge packs and AOEing it all down. You think buffing the AV NPCs by 30-50% would do anything in the face of 1.12 talents and modern gamer capability?
Watching some of these streamers, they’re saying that the mobs on Classic are doing 1/2 to 1/3 the damage they do on private servers. This is probably going to end up being the case for AV as well, which is easily zerged on private servers.
Nerfing a battleground in order to appease the people who grind for a high rank is what led us down this path to begin with. Like I said, AB and WSG are already quick honour grinds for people who are looking for that.
It’s not just about the guards, it’s the quests and objectives that they removed.
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The slippery slope argument is fallacious. There are numerous things that “led us to where we are,” but Vanilla and the changes therein weren’t any of them. The biggest contributing factor was the Activision buyout of Blizzard in 2008.
Or you’re simply lying, most games were not zergs in 1.12. That didn’t become the norm until reinforcements were added, which was much later.
Day long AV battles were the best things I remember about classic wow. Not the watered down zergfest crap we have today.
Original AV, yes please.
If I don’t get to play original AV then what even is the point in all this?
It wasn’t the rewards that kept me going back. It was the fun and the experience.
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Yes to this.
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