10 man loot needs to be 2 items with a 50% chance at a 3rd

Oh yea now that we are all geared and have it on farm ofc.

As far as prog goes 25m is way harder.

10m is a joke.

Now it’s irrelevant it’s on farm for everyone, well except Williamferal and his guild Heroic.

Heroic guild motto is just swap it to normal.

I mean 25 man you can just feign a DC and go afk half the fights and since there’s so many more players it doesn’t really matter.

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That’s just completely untrue there was way more checks for 25.

10 men only issue is killing the bosses to fast and phasing them to their next phase when you’re not ready.

There’s literally no DPS checks in 10 man even on Prog

Peepostab(Drinknblink) managed to do less than 10k dps as a fire mage on 25M Atramedes :skull:

That’s who is trying to gatekeep LMAO

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Yea im gatekeeping you and your raid team at 7/13H lmfao.

Im the reason you can’t kill almost half the raid tier lmfao.

You seem to think I only play one toon still(I have zero logs on this toon). I’ve seen your other raiding toons and none have even reached a top 100 parse in ALL of Classic. :skull:

You also did less than 10k on Atramedes in a 25M. :skull:

The only reason you’ve downed content this phase is because you had 24 other people in raid strong enough to carry you. You struggled to even get above a 90 parse this entire phase on one of the absolute easiest dps classes to play. The amount of gatekeeping toxicity from you on these forums is laughable when people put into context just how badly you play…

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My guy really came in here with the “im good on my other account”…LMFAO.

The jokes write themselves, we both know why you aren’t posting on that “other character” and it’s because we would all be impressed with how bad you are lmfao.

Why don’t you reply to my response that included proof to counter your “you can carry someone in 25 man raid” argument? Why did method only had 3 players left when Lei-shen died? was someone in their raid getting “carried”?

I have, the real answer is 10 and 25 man starting from Cata were tuned the same, the end result was that sometimes one or the other ended up being easier so this stupid argument keeps happening. Hence why blizzard ended up going to 20 man and flex for everything else.

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Not true at all.

10m was Only ever harder on its launch in t11, however lots of nerfs hit and from that point on 10m has always been easier ever since.

10m t11 in our current patch is a joke.

10m t12 is a complete joke.

Won’t know about ds till PTR.

10m is literally easy on ever version of classic.

Not true at all.

25m was Only ever harder on its launch in t11, however lots of nerfs hit and from that point on 25m has always been easier ever since.

25m t11 in our current patch is a joke.

25m t12 is a complete joke.

Won’t know about ds till PTR.

10 man was easier in Wrath because it was explicitly tuned to be easier. That is simply not the case in Cata.

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It is the case in cata.

We aren’t on the initial launch patch of t11, we have all the nerfs that specifically target 10m in the current patch.

Firelands was a joke on 10m on PTR.

You’re actually just trolling at this point.

So are you :stuck_out_tongue:

No I’m using data you’re using your feelings

The data shows that given a fair option people prefer smaller raids.

That’s why blizzard ditched both 10 and 25 man and went to 20 man with flex for everything else.

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When you move the goal post it proves you’re wrong.

You’re doing the meme version of the raid and it’s ok.

Also I had the option to do 10m, my raid stayed 25m.

Once again you’re wrong.

Didn’t you say your raid ended up doing 10 mans because you didn’t have 25 competent raiders?

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No, I said we couldn’t kill heroic Nef on 25m so we posted signups ups for a non raid day and got 10 people well 9 others including my mage and rekt him.

Hell we wiped 1 time because we pushed him too fast because you have no DPS checks, the bosses are a joke.

We can even go by your ICC prog, you couldn’t kill heroic LK on 25m until ICC had a 25% buff but you pretty easily did 10m heroic in t11…

And you’re going to sit here and say 10m isn’t easier rofl?

Right it sounds like you just dropped some underperformers from your 25 man and were able to do 10 man.

That’s expected.

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No the fight was just a joke
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I think it’s funny that the people who couldn’t kill heroic lich King all of a sudden are full clearing current tier no problem on 10 man… I wonder why

If this was the actual initial release of 10 men you wouldn’t be 13 out of 13