10 man loot needs to be 2 items with a 50% chance at a 3rd

This is exactly what they did.

Are you not getting it?

That world first 10m and 25m kill is the SAME TEAM.

Were 10 and 25 mans cleared week one?

You just can’t admit it no matter what anyone says.

The things they are saying with the differences is exactly what we’re saying.

The DPS checks are gone that are in 25

The damage from the boss mechanics are way less

There’s more room

The boss health is drastically lower in proportion to the amount of players.

My guys just going to ignore the full write up like it doesn’t exist from the people who actually did both back then.

Acting like they went out and got 105 more item levels before they did 10 man

Depends on the fight.

Some are easier 10 man, some easier 25.

But 10 man is less forgiving in the sence of personal responsibility. If 1 dps dies in 10 man you lose far more raid dps than if 1 dps dies in 25 man. And you have more healer/raid CDs to better cover mechanics in 25 than you do 10 man. And more utility options for example neff heroic in 10 man you might have 1 or 2 people with an aoe slow for the mind controls. To buy more time for the damage buff. But if both of them get mind controled, there is no slow. 25 man is more forgiving to this mechanic as you will very likely have more slow options than the mind control number. Ony / neff crackle is also easier in terms of more availability to raid CDs. The list goes on, but the point being some fights are easier in 10 man, some are easier in 25.

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You dont lose anythign really.

There is no dps checks in 10m lmao.

My man bringing up MC.

10m Nef is a freaking joke.

Its literally what my raid team did when we couldnt kill 25m.

The adds wipe you on Nef and nothing else, and there is over double the adds.

Literally everything about 10m is easier.

And in 25 you can have 2-3 add tanks to minimize that issue, with more healers and CDs available. There is ways to make 25 man easier, it is just bad for “parses” as it would slow the kill time, but make the execution of the fight easier.

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And 25 man gets to add a third tank to help with adds.

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factually incorrect since 25 man drops 6 pieces. having a chance at a 3rd piece is still less pieces than 6, and getting 6 pieces to drop from 25m means you have a higher chance at the specific item you want to drop since they share the same loot pool

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No matter what people say you’re never going to get it is fine.

Yes having another tank do it is exactly what you need.

But that also means more responsibility which means more things can go wrong since you’re dealing with double the adds

I can see all the “hidden replies” again.

There is no point in arguing with the people that think 10M is free. They are trolls. Just ignore them.

They’ve been making the same dense replies for months on these forums.

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Pot meet kettle.

Literally have the world first raiders who did 25 and 10 men world first write up a whole thing about it.

10 man is free

link logs where you swapped to 10 man from 25 and killed nef

Drinknblink.

July 12th

average item lvl 366 kekw. farmed gear in all 25 man just go flex in 10 man lmfao

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I mean heroic drops 372…

But you see how much easier it was?

You can see the logs from that week on 25 man how we couldn’t kill it, later on in the week we posted signups got 10 people and killed it pretty easily and he’s the hardest or 2nd hardest boss.

10m is a joke

dawg, you’re entire raid on july 12th had more gear than my guilds 10 man has in weeks of farming 10 man heroic. it’s actually a joke you actually comparing close to full 372 heroic bis to people who get 2 drops per boss omegakek. you do realize the advantage you had over anyone running 10 man week1? you are actually fried

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This wasn’t a week 1 kill lmao.

This was weeks into the tier.

You’re coping.

10m is a meme, even the world first raiders agree, who got world first in 10 and 25m.

It’s literally easier in every way.

We also had the same ilvl on 25m when we couldn’t beat it.

the amount of cope and ego you have insane homie.

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You guys really need to look up the definition of ego.

You all keep using it wrong.

There is no Cope, 10 man is easier.

being fed in a 25 man to go kill a 10 man boss for the flex is insane lol. my raids current item level as of this past week is 365. you went into the raid in july after killing 25 man bosses for extra loot and had 366 ilvl. your tanks have close to bis. you’re telling me you didn’t get the upper hand on that?

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