10 levels and no stronger than the end of BFA

So you’re saying the launch of an xpac is the same as a standalone sequel? Really?

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But that crap gear is equivalent if not worse than the gear we have now from heroics and mythic 0’s so how are we doing less damage in those old raids?

I’m just saying, why did Geralt get so much weaker when I started up Wild Hunt, when I had earned so much power by the end of Assassins and Kings? Did Kratos stop hitting the gym between 3 and 4? What happened to Link’s Mirror Shield between OoT and MM? Cmon devs, get it together!

I don’t know what games you’re talking about, nor do I care, because it’s irrelevant.

An expansion to an already existing game affects the entirety of the singular game. Standalone sequels don’t affect their predecessors at all. Your argument is completely off the mark and completely irrelevant, just like most of your other comments in this thread, and I am done wasting my time on you.

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If you already have better gear in SL than you were able to obtain throughout the entire span of BFA, I would claim that either (a) you don’t have enough experience with this game to really justify such a passionate argument for either case, or (b) you’re lying about the gear situation. You’d have to have picked up the game basically 2 months ago, or literally never attempted to gear your character at all in BFA for your statement to be true.

Tries to make proclamations about core RPG progression.
Doesn’t even recognize the most popular modern RPGs.

What a joke. Sounds like you only play WoW, quit in the middle of Cata, and came back for SL expecting everything to be like the good ol’ days. Classic is free if you have an active subscription to WoW, sounds like you’d enjoy that more.

I’m sorry but I’m going to disagree with you here. I agree that scaling in off right now, but they are not expecting people to gear heroic raids to clear legacy content. Most people won’t do that and they know it. They had to create LFR because most people were not raiding. If forced I’m pretty sure that most legacy players would quit rather than gear heroic.

Also your essences and and special item procs no longer work as well so I saw someone do the math, and after taking all that away we, as character were approximately 60% weaker overall, that was starting at lvl 50 after the crush, all of BFA was centered around the abilities,essences,and corruptions to make us “stronger” its no longer there, and until they do something similar in SL we’re pretty much borked if your not in a raiding/mythic/or high end pvp guild.

Are they slightly encouraging GROUPING? Even in last expac content ya think? Instead of allowing soloing everything? It will be interesting to see what sort of ‘fix’ that is being requested gets put in, if in fact Blizz is completely aware of the issues being described in this thread, but in fact planned it to be this way. Lots to think about.

Relevant to current Level content, we should be weaker. Relevant to lower level content we should be stronger. Leveling itself is supposed to be a form of progression, not regression.

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I just came back to retail from classic after about 8 years away genius. Such an idiotic response from someone unwilling to see other people’s point of view.

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Okay, so both of my proposed scenarios are true. Not sure why you would jump into the game onto a fresh 110/120 and try to solo legacy content with those trash greens instead of playing the game you’re actively paying for (that’d be the current expac, by the way - legacy content doesn’t receive attention, development, or support from Blizzard unless players break the game with unforeseen interactions).

Classic and Retail are two separate games so I’m sorry if there’s a bit of system shock.

Jesus Christ. People enjoy different aspects of games, how hard is that to get through your head? BFA content didn’t interest me so I played legacy raids, which again why does someone need to justify wanting to do something in their own spare time to you? The only part of your scenario that’s true is that they were never attempted to be geared but how is that relevant in regards to the topic? Being able to solo in crap greens and now having more difficulty with better gear still stands, you’ve said nothing relevant in regards to that.

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Considering most OP isn’t even geared enough for Heroic (or at least, LFG Heroic), and doesn’t have stuff like legendaries, it’s no wonder that they’re not as strong as probably the period in time where we’ve been the strongest we’ve ever been.

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It doesn’t matter to me why you want to do what you do. But if you’re going to act entitled to a fringe aspect of gameplay while also demonstrating a lack of understanding of fundamental game mechanics, while being actively hostile to people attempting to explain, I’m going to start being condescending.

You can be as condescending as you want it doesn’t really matter. Your arguments don’t make sense and you’re providing no evidence, so it seems your little attitude is all you have to offer this conversation.

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the crux of the situation is this:

I am level 60. In shadowlands i can easily kill a 57 with 3 hits. when i go back to BFA to finish off old achives such as loremaster i get the crap kicked out of me by level 50’s.

THIS SHOULD NOT BE HAPPENING. I’M 10 LEVELS HIGHER AND ONE X-PAC FURTHER ALOING.

you can white knight for Blizz all you want but the fact of the matter is that i should at level 60 not have issues take down level 50’s from a previous expansion.

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It’s not even just whiteknighting, it’s throwing darts at a wall and parroting the sticky notes that are hit. The incoherency is so strong - it’s not worth the time.

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the biggest insult is the frickin’ mob levels are GREY (@60). I was doing Nazjatar yesterday for emissary and still took as much time as it did when I was 50 to kill mobs.

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Yeah sorry bud, looks like I missed the level squish they did before this first ever in the history of WoW…

I did just watch TENET so maybe you’re blue team?