1 hour q for shuffle

[Tiapriestess-whisperwind (Tiapriestess)]

@Vincent-nathrezim

I believe there will be changes coming soon. I think there was a blue post about this last week?

Yes, that post is here.

@Kaivax

Happy New Year champions!

Before the holidays, we posted an update about future improvements that we’re working on for Rated Solo Shuffle, and we want to provide additional information on those updates. For additional information about Rated Solo Shuffle, please refer to the FAQ about Rated Solo Shuffle that was previously posted.

Coming with Weekly Restarts

Next week, we will make an update so that leaving a match will impact both Matchmaking Rating and Current Rating. We’ve received a great deal of player feedback indicating that losing only current rating has not been enough of a deterrent to leaving, and leaving is highly disruptive to the Solo Shuffle experience.

10.0.5 Improvements

We have several changes coming in 10.0.5 to improve how our system handles players who leave matches:

• Rating will be calculated per-round in games with leavers.
  • This has been a recurring point of feedback that we agree with. The format of Solo Shuffle is intended to have all 6 rounds completed, as there can be composition or skill imbalances between individual rounds. Now, when rating is calculated for incomplete matches (matches with leavers), gains and losses will be scaled linearly based on the number of rounds completed.
• Matchmaking Value for each player in a match will be displayed on the scoreboard.
  • We want to provide additional visibility to matchmaking. Matches are made based on the matchmaking rating of players, not their current rating. When a player enters a match, we determine the expected performance of players in the match based on player matchmaking rating (MMR). We take all the rounds into account, considering who was on each side and who won, so it matters which specific rounds the player wins, and not just the total number of rounds won, in calculating impact on MMR. We hope this helps players to better understand the matches they’re placed in, as well as rating changes of individual players based on the results of the match.

• A warning prompt will display the penalties for leaving if a player attempts to leave a match.
  • If a player attempts to leave a match in progress, they will be prompted with a warning that indicates the repercussions of leaving including penalties and forfeiture of rewards. The warning will have a 5 second countdown and the player will be required to hit ‘Accept’ to leave. Our intent with this change is to make the leaver punishments more visible, as well as requiring additional acknowledgement from the leaving player.

Players who leave excessively will be subject to account review and suspensions, as abandoning matches repeatedly is a violation of the terms of service via exploiting functionality to the detriment of the game environment and the intended player experience.

Beyond 10.0.5

Looking to the future, we’re actively discussing options we might take to incentivize more healers to queue for Solo Shuffle to reduce the queue time for the damage role. This includes ways to make Solo Shuffle gameplay a more fun, rewarding experience for healers. We do not have anything to share about that right now, but in addition to leavers, it’s a foremost concern for the team.

We’re also looking into improving the UI further for both those in-queue and those who are about to queue.

As a team, we’re excited about Rated Solo Shuffle and we’re looking to iterate and improve on it in future patches. Your feedback has been valuable and greatly appreciated.

Thank you very much!

[Furyblvd-area-52]

Bursty af dps, hypermobility, don’t peel for healers, entering with 150k hp. Hmmm, I wonder why the ques are so long.

[Akamonk-barthilas]

But it’s always degen hours here in Australia.

[Tiapriestess-whisperwind (Tiapriestess)]

Well, you could always RLPVP with the local fauna. Since, you know, everything wants to kill you down there.

[Akamonk-barthilas]

Yeh man, found a nice huntsman last night I took outside to frolic with (Not even joking about that).

[Tiapriestess-whisperwind (Tiapriestess)]

Nope, nope, and more nope with those. I don’t care if they’re docile. They’re bigger than most wall clocks before they even stretch their legs.

[Murdercarpet-zuljin]

@Shadina-gorefiend

the bracket’s losing people.

This is believable.

[Akamonk-barthilas]

Nah this was just a baby, not much smaller than my hand.

[Tiapriestess-whisperwind (Tiapriestess)]

I said it once, I’ll say it again:

[Shadina-gorefiend (Shadina)]

@Tiapriestess-whisperwind

I’m assuming by “someone left today” you mean after the game has started?

Oh no, it was after. Quite literally, every solo shuffle I got into, round 4 or 5, someone left. That happened 5 times in a row, and it was infuriating. Because every queue was 45 minutes to an hour. And I understand the fix being implemented. I just don’t like the game mode and people have soured my experience with it thoroughly.

[Tiapriestess-whisperwind (Tiapriestess)]

@Shadina-gorefiend

Oh no, it was after. Quite literally, every solo shuffle I got into, round 4 or 5, someone left. That happened 5 times in a row, and it was infuriating. Because every queue was 45 minutes to an hour. And I understand the fix being implemented. I just don’t like the game mode and people have soured my experience with it thoroughly.

Sadly that’s both understandable and likely a very common response to how people that leave have until the last reset been able to get away with their actions unscathed. IMO because low to medium ranked players can potentially earn back most of what they lose (assuming an average of 150 lost rating per bail) the penalty needs to be doubled such that they can’t simply recoup those losses with a one, maybe two matches where they curbstomp the competition.

I sincerely doubt the current penalty is harsh enough to deter hardcore bailers. Guess we’ll see over the next few weeks. Hopefully it won’t take Blizzard that long to parse enough internal data to determine whether that’s the case or not.

[Ilidaria-anetheron (Ilidaria)]

You never gave any suggestions of making it better, so methinks that’s not your objective in making this thread, just saying.

[Argorwal-ysera (Argorwal)]

@Undertails-moon-guard

1 hour queue, then either go 3-3 where no one leaves due to either a bad healer or a bad DPS and gain 0 rating, or go 5-0 and someone leaves and gain 0 rating. Or you get someone salty that just refuses to heal you for 2 matches, fun times.

So what you’re saying is queue based content can have much worse results and cohesion than making a pre-made group?

[Derrida-kilrogg]

I don’t pvp shuffle… but why are the queues so long?

lack of tanks?
lack of healing?
…

[Argorwal-ysera (Argorwal)]

Lack of healers.

[Derrida-kilrogg]

Is there something inherently bad about being a healer in arenas?

[Dáddý-area-52]

Being entirely reliant on your team to either peel or put enough counter pressure on their healer while you get bent over backwards by two oonga boonga melee is probably not an enjoyable experience for much if I were to hazard a guess.

[Argorwal-ysera (Argorwal)]

@Derrida-kilrogg

Is there something inherently bad about being a healer in arenas?

It’s normal healer arena problems.

Healers are in short supply in PvE as well, and now for 3v3 you need 1 healer for every 2 dps which is the tightest healer to dps ratio in the game.

[Derrida-kilrogg]

@Dáddý-area-52

probably not an enjoyable experience

Being a healer myself, but not in PVP, what mechanic could relieve that stress or make it more ‘worth the time?’ Healers and tanks have been problematic since day 1… hero’s or goats.

[Dáddý-area-52]

The answer is there isn’t one. I don’t PvP so my opinion on this is worth next to nothing, but any time healers are actually “good” you get like 5 minute rounds because no one dies and you run it down to the debuff making healing “useless” over time.