1 hour q for shuffle

[Xerafane-wyrmrest-accord]

I just wish there was a ‘Duel’ bracket for shuffle. Where 6 players get rotated into 1v1s in seperate arenas. Or we can do away with the silly arena thing altogether and implement Solo-Queue Rated BGs.

[Nowk-stormrage]

@Xerafane-wyrmrest-accord

I just wish there was a ‘Duel’ bracket for shuffle

lol.
Ya imagine queuein as arms warrior to 1vs1 a ret pally, gonna be soo enjoyable lmao.

Sometime i have 40 misn queue sometimes i have 12 mins queue at the exact same time periods, really dunno whats going on.

@Shadina-gorefiend

Back then, they had come up with some kind of solution which made playing with and against people from other regions less of a nightmare within arena, and somewhere we lost that functionality. We should be asking for that back to benefit all of us.

I play from Brazil i dont think this ever happened.
I assumed all rated content happens at a USs servers and thats all.

[Undertails-moon-guard]

1 hour queue, then either go 3-3 where no one leaves due to either a bad healer or a bad DPS and gain 0 rating, or go 5-0 and someone leaves and gain 0 rating. Or you get someone salty that just refuses to heal you for 2 matches, fun times.

[Tiapriestess-whisperwind (Tiapriestess)]

@Shadina-gorefiend

5 games in a row, someone left today, all of them 45 minute - 1 hour queues, and finally when I got in a game at 1:45 in the afternoon on a flippin’ Monday, it was an OCE group where I had 300 MS the whole time and couldn’t function.

I’m assuming by “someone left today” you mean after the game has started? Or is it during the queue before it finally pops? If it’s the latter there isn’t much you can do about that. Peoples’ patience has limits as does their available playing time in most cases. If it’s the former, Blizzard’s working on fixing what happens when you leave. They’re intending to experiment with lowering both standard PvP rating and their hidden MMR value if you leave before the match is complete, which right now is the biggest complaint about solo shuffle.

@Shadina-gorefiend

Back then, they had come up with some kind of solution which made playing with and against people from other regions less of a nightmare within arena, and somewhere we lost that functionality. We should be asking for that back to benefit all of us.

The functionality never went away, it’s just that the available player pool for solo shuffle is extremely low (likely due to the aforementioned “leaver” issue making people not want to bother anymore) and the system has no choice but to combine regional pools in order to keep queues as low as possible. The default is still to pair players with others in the same region when possible.

@Nowk-stormrage

Sometime i have 40 misn queue sometimes i have 12 mins queue at the exact same time periods, really dunno whats going on.

Lack of players in the pool is what’s going on. Some days are better than others, hence the disparities you see.

[Vincent-nathrezim]

The solution of course, is simple: Increase the players who want to que for Solo Shuffle.

How blizzard does that, or doesn’t as the case may be, is up to them.

I believe there will be changes coming soon. I think there was a blue post about this last week?

[Tiapriestess-whisperwind (Tiapriestess)]

@Vincent-nathrezim

I believe there will be changes coming soon. I think there was a blue post about this last week?

Yes, that post is here.

@Kaivax

Happy New Year champions!

Before the holidays, we posted an update about future improvements that we’re working on for Rated Solo Shuffle, and we want to provide additional information on those updates. For additional information about Rated Solo Shuffle, please refer to the FAQ about Rated Solo Shuffle that was previously posted.

Coming with Weekly Restarts

Next week, we will make an update so that leaving a match will impact both Matchmaking Rating and Current Rating. We’ve received a great deal of player feedback indicating that losing only current rating has not been enough of a deterrent to leaving, and leaving is highly disruptive to the Solo Shuffle experience.

10.0.5 Improvements

We have several changes coming in 10.0.5 to improve how our system handles players who leave matches:

• Rating will be calculated per-round in games with leavers.
  • This has been a recurring point of feedback that we agree with. The format of Solo Shuffle is intended to have all 6 rounds completed, as there can be composition or skill imbalances between individual rounds. Now, when rating is calculated for incomplete matches (matches with leavers), gains and losses will be scaled linearly based on the number of rounds completed.
• Matchmaking Value for each player in a match will be displayed on the scoreboard.
  • We want to provide additional visibility to matchmaking. Matches are made based on the matchmaking rating of players, not their current rating. When a player enters a match, we determine the expected performance of players in the match based on player matchmaking rating (MMR). We take all the rounds into account, considering who was on each side and who won, so it matters which specific rounds the player wins, and not just the total number of rounds won, in calculating impact on MMR. We hope this helps players to better understand the matches they’re placed in, as well as rating changes of individual players based on the results of the match.

• A warning prompt will display the penalties for leaving if a player attempts to leave a match.
  • If a player attempts to leave a match in progress, they will be prompted with a warning that indicates the repercussions of leaving including penalties and forfeiture of rewards. The warning will have a 5 second countdown and the player will be required to hit ‘Accept’ to leave. Our intent with this change is to make the leaver punishments more visible, as well as requiring additional acknowledgement from the leaving player.

Players who leave excessively will be subject to account review and suspensions, as abandoning matches repeatedly is a violation of the terms of service via exploiting functionality to the detriment of the game environment and the intended player experience.

Beyond 10.0.5

Looking to the future, we’re actively discussing options we might take to incentivize more healers to queue for Solo Shuffle to reduce the queue time for the damage role. This includes ways to make Solo Shuffle gameplay a more fun, rewarding experience for healers. We do not have anything to share about that right now, but in addition to leavers, it’s a foremost concern for the team.

We’re also looking into improving the UI further for both those in-queue and those who are about to queue.

As a team, we’re excited about Rated Solo Shuffle and we’re looking to iterate and improve on it in future patches. Your feedback has been valuable and greatly appreciated.

Thank you very much!

[Furyblvd-area-52]

Bursty af dps, hypermobility, don’t peel for healers, entering with 150k hp. Hmmm, I wonder why the ques are so long.

[Akamonk-barthilas]

But it’s always degen hours here in Australia.

[Tiapriestess-whisperwind (Tiapriestess)]

Well, you could always RLPVP with the local fauna. Since, you know, everything wants to kill you down there.

[Akamonk-barthilas]

Yeh man, found a nice huntsman last night I took outside to frolic with (Not even joking about that).

[Tiapriestess-whisperwind (Tiapriestess)]

Nope, nope, and more nope with those. I don’t care if they’re docile. They’re bigger than most wall clocks before they even stretch their legs.

[Murdercarpet-zuljin]

@Shadina-gorefiend

the bracket’s losing people.

This is believable.

[Akamonk-barthilas]

Nah this was just a baby, not much smaller than my hand.

[Tiapriestess-whisperwind (Tiapriestess)]

I said it once, I’ll say it again:

[Shadina-gorefiend (Shadina)]

@Tiapriestess-whisperwind

I’m assuming by “someone left today” you mean after the game has started?

Oh no, it was after. Quite literally, every solo shuffle I got into, round 4 or 5, someone left. That happened 5 times in a row, and it was infuriating. Because every queue was 45 minutes to an hour. And I understand the fix being implemented. I just don’t like the game mode and people have soured my experience with it thoroughly.

[Tiapriestess-whisperwind (Tiapriestess)]

@Shadina-gorefiend

Oh no, it was after. Quite literally, every solo shuffle I got into, round 4 or 5, someone left. That happened 5 times in a row, and it was infuriating. Because every queue was 45 minutes to an hour. And I understand the fix being implemented. I just don’t like the game mode and people have soured my experience with it thoroughly.

Sadly that’s both understandable and likely a very common response to how people that leave have until the last reset been able to get away with their actions unscathed. IMO because low to medium ranked players can potentially earn back most of what they lose (assuming an average of 150 lost rating per bail) the penalty needs to be doubled such that they can’t simply recoup those losses with a one, maybe two matches where they curbstomp the competition.

I sincerely doubt the current penalty is harsh enough to deter hardcore bailers. Guess we’ll see over the next few weeks. Hopefully it won’t take Blizzard that long to parse enough internal data to determine whether that’s the case or not.

[Ilidaria-anetheron (Ilidaria)]

You never gave any suggestions of making it better, so methinks that’s not your objective in making this thread, just saying.

[Argorwal-ysera (Argorwal)]

@Undertails-moon-guard

1 hour queue, then either go 3-3 where no one leaves due to either a bad healer or a bad DPS and gain 0 rating, or go 5-0 and someone leaves and gain 0 rating. Or you get someone salty that just refuses to heal you for 2 matches, fun times.

So what you’re saying is queue based content can have much worse results and cohesion than making a pre-made group?

[Derrida-kilrogg]

I don’t pvp shuffle… but why are the queues so long?

lack of tanks?
lack of healing?
…

[Argorwal-ysera (Argorwal)]

Lack of healers.