1.12 AV... I'm Losing Interest

To be fair is there any actual legal expert that suggests a game like WoW would be up for grabs?(and I do mean legal expert and not us armchair lawyers on the forums =P).

I’m just one of the aforementioned armchair lawyers, but I was under the impression that “Vanilla WoW” is not a IP, and it feels like “not offering an old version of your game” being up for grabs is ripe for some really messy things.

I doubt that applies. Vanilla WoW is not a different game to retail, it’s the same game that’s been modified and expanded upon. You’d have a point if you were talking about D1 or something (Which has been recently offered up on GOG, to protect that game).

And yet here you are telling everyone they’re a crybaby because they wanted a different version of AV.

It’s there forever. On a serious note. Everyone wants something different, Don’t you guys know the Rolling Stones song?

Personally i think it’s a easy to cash in, on an old IP without doing a lot of work. P servers will still run, even with Classic wow coming out.

Only those who are promising to quit because AV was the only reason they were coming back.

I’m against it because I prefer the other version? Uhhh…buuudddd…

Something tells me you never actually played 1.12 av? It’s nothing like retail honey

I’m not trolling or ignoring anything. ‘All my posts’ lol dude I made one post and it was making fun of the old threads that cried about leaving the game. Drama queen much?

If they are so insulting to you then maybe you should stop acting like this.

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We’re gonna miss you. Well. not really cause we’ll be playing Classic… but we would if we weren’t but we are.

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The old forums give 2338 posts for guild bank (also a popular change/no change topic), 6704 for sharding, 1091 for loot trading, 3440 for AV, and sharding and loot trading only got major discussion after blue commented about it. You didn’t so much discussion about sharding and loot trading by pro/anti-sharder/loottraders until after blue made a comment.

Ret paladins are special.

Each person makes that determination of why they will or won’t play a game. THEY make that decision, not you.

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1.5 AV + auto raid group joining and 1 for 1 faction balance would’ve been better I think.

Edit - on the fence about pre match buffs being mana free, it was kinda nice but also made mages not care about giving out water.

The new forum software, which includes old forum posts, put AV at a fairly low number comparatively.

Loot trading/sharding weren’t discussed until Blizzard said we were getting one and they were thinking about the other. We didn’t even consider that they’d use it until then. That makes sense, but it is a VERY popular topic these days.

and yes, ret paladins are special =P

It literally is the only reason they are doing it, and yes it does apply.

https://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/online-games-dmca-exemption/

other mmos and other games are falling into these categories for ‘preservation’ because their versions of the game are no longer on the market place. The only thing stopping them from becoming up for grabs is something they are discussing to this day that if online play is part of the preservation, which it’s looking like this will get passed. I did a deep dive on this stuff about a year ago so I forget most of the facts around this, but blizzard was 100% at risk for this.

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I’m not making any decisions for them. Nor am I telling them what to do with their time. I’m simply questioning their priorities, since AV is such an infinitesimally small reason to be coming back to Classic.

I’m cool with this. I never had any illusions that it would be anything but 1.12 considering that is the patch we are getting.

The old forum software shows it was a relatively popular subject back at the time, these people didn’t come out of nowhere. I can’t get anything but a useless “50+” posts from the new search.

Even in 1.12 AV if both sides want to win long games will happen. It wont go on for days like in 1.5 but that was largely due to all the NPC’s with high hp / dmg slowing things down.

Also there won’t be any zerging in 1.12 either due to many things like slower movement speeds in general, longer recovery times, longer respawn timers, and healers not being god mode all make the modern zerging of AV not possible.

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I can use the same meme about you and your ilk too, buddy.

I know you asked for an expert and this might not be what you’re looking for, but from what research I did and put into laymen’s terms it basically said that any video game that has been off the market place for X amount of years has the right to be emulated and preserved for ‘art’ history reasons. But this basically just meant that they can legally be emulated but not played by the public. But I believe I read that they were looking into laws to make it so games that required you to be online and play online that they could be emulated like on a private server for preservation reasons. I’m sure there is way more to it as well but that’s a rabbit hole I’m not going back down into.

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You calling me a tea pot? Seriously I’m more of a Coffee machine comrade.

As to this, You CAN still zerg 1.12 AV 100% doable, but there are more power checks in it. For example Back-dooring alliance, and the same strat people used on P servers will be 100% viable, since we use to do it on AV weekends in Retail vanilla.