0.X% drop rates need to be removed from the game entirely

Kudos to you. Anybody else would be embarrassed or ashamed to admit not being able to read above a third grade level. But you wear it with pride.

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“Muh gambling addiction! How dare you want items to be rare and based on chance rather than fulfilling quotas or checking boxes!”

All you have is your opinion on how you things should and shouldn’t be and yet you keep trying to disguise your opinion as some sort of logical argument based on facts or evidence. It isn’t. You just don’t like RNG. Boohooo. Too bad. Blizzard isn’t going to change it because you keep whining about it in the forums. RNG is here to stay. Deal with it

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Stop using these petulant buzzwords and using them incorrectly. I didn’t gaslight or lie about anything. You’re just angry and want to toss around terms that make people you don’t like, look bad. The only one lying is you. Whether or not it’s intentional or just incompetence, is a different story.

No, it’s because I can tell that you’re far beneath my efforts and that you’re clearly an antagonistic chronically online person who thinks they’re good at arguing when they’re not. You’re like a child learning how to walk, and upon discovering this newfound skill, you see an adult, sitting down, giving you a false sense of superiority based on lack of understanding.

90% of your posts are you arguing with people and then nitpicking their responses and then trying to “debate” whether their responses are valid or not according to some invisible rulebook that only you have access to. It’s no wonder why everyone seems to have a problem with you. How about you take some advice and go do something else besides antagonizing people on a fantasy game appreciation forum.

INB4 you try to pretend how I started it and try to convince yourself that you’re actually the good guy and everyone else is the problem.

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Yeah, i’m pretty sure him calling people “mutants” in the same breath with sir/maham that falls under this… :point_down:

Insultingly refer to any aspect of sexual/romantic orientation or gender identity/expression (male, female, trans-gender, bi-gender, pangender, genderfluid, agender or any non-binary identity not listed) pertaining to themselves or other players

…Oh look, Thorgoreguy responded to me atfer he said he wasn’t going to respond to me anymore. :roll_eyes:

Let’s see what he’s on about this time.

You’re welcome to deny reality, but it’s still subjective on what you’ve said.

Time and Distance are objective measures.

Color and Sound are only objective if were talking digitally, but otherwise, it’s just an an experience that is different from human to human, like smell and taste. I can’t taste you taste, nor see the same colors you possibly see. The same goes to everybody else.

Nothing in your philosophical rambling about “perception” has any objectivity to it that can actually be measured. All you really said “well i find it fun” or “i like it”.

Speaking of philosophical rambling, i’m going to skip this lecture, because it’s completely irrelevant to the argument here.

Mate, you can deny it, but you’ve positioned it as such, given how you’re using your positivity as a tactic here as you think it’s substantive reasoning alone.

So why you’re still trying to push it as a point by following it up with this then? :point_down:


You first, because you’re the one acting like it’s the court.

It’s not substantive nor there’s any logical reasoning behind this. So it’s not really a point.

Oversimplifcation from you.
I want it minimized because it would be much better for the game to have more consistent rewards you work for. In the same vein as VP and JP back in Wrath/Cata. Not “i want to do this in the same hour”, more of “i want to spend a consistent amount of time getting this, even if it takes weeks to get it”. You did say persistence and endurance is a skill, and this is persistence/endurance. It just rewards that persistence/endurance much more consistently. That being, enduring grinding enough of the currency to buy what you need.

You’re the only one here who is treating it like that, i’m just simply having a casual debate with you.

There’s a difference between people getting happy that a rare item drops, and you getting so happy that you want more RNG over putting in effort because their addicted to it at the cost of other people’s enjoyment. You’re the latter one here.

The way you talk down skill, is telling that you don’t want to put in the effort.

Especially since the same can be said to RNG.

An opinion that actually betters the game for a majority of people involved.

You say that because your philosophical lectures of “Oh real life has luck!..” isn’t logical given the fact that really doesn’t apply to video games that much. Video games are an interactive medium after all.

I see you don’t have any actual logic or facts here, and just throwing out this “It’s not going anywhere” bit. I mean should people complaining about boosters back in 2019 with classic, ought to deal with it because “it’s here to stay”? Because blizzard has been slowly changing aspects of the game to combat that.

Point being, these sorts of statements always age badly. Because Blizzard listens to feedback and change if the need arises. This game is constantly changing both in and out of game. Ya know, the real life you keep on talking about, it’s constantly changing and sometimes people change it when the need arises, so it makes sense that Blizzard does the same.

You’re only calling them buzzwords because you dislike what i’m saying but have nothing to refute other then “well-- i-i-i-i I DIDN’T LIE… or GASLIGHT!!”… while still doing those things, as well pulling a frivolous “no u” argument, because that’s essentially nearly your comments now. Like i’m legit impressed you managed to out do Hercules in like fewer words.

Didn’t you say you were not going to respond to me any further? What changed your mind mate? Honestly, these 3 comments (which you could’ve easily combined them into one) is pretty bitter sounding coming from you… :laughing:

Oh looky looky, a Paragraph of ad-homs. Skip. :yawning_face:

You actually scoured though 13,286 (as the time of writing) posts of mine, or are you just pulling it out of thin air?

If you’re implying your way of debating is what you consider the proper way, then i’m going to stick with my way, because it’s working out much better for me honestly, and it’s getting me pretty civil and honest replies from normal people. :slight_smile:

Not my problemo that your way of debating is awful and you want to project that on to me. :man_shrugging:

:laughing:

Why you keep thinking i’m like policing you or something? I’m simply having a debate, and yet over here, you’re thinking it’s more then just that. "Oh my god, you think it’s a COURT!!! You think you’re the judge! you have an invisable rulebook!! :scream: "

The people in your head don’t count buddy.

Plus, Lahill, Thailla and a few other forum members i come across are pretty chill with me. Even if i disagree with them vehemently to a point where we get into a proverbial spitshow, we just get over it, or come to a mutual understanding somehow, because carrying a grudge here is kind of pointless. I know that because i actually did get into a spit match with Thailla… twice. And i assume she has the same thoughts here. What’s done is done, we move on, time heals wounds, etc etc.

And to the people who are choosing or still choosing to hold a grudge over me because they lost an argument or can’t be civil with me? Their loss really. :man_shrugging:

You know what’s the funny part? Those people who hold a grudge against me, are often the people who has the same arguments as yours, including your “nobody likes you” argument that you two (hercules), love to rag me on for, as if you’re the representative of everybody on the face of the planet and can speak for everybody. :laughing:

Nice job diminishing your own philosophical “real life” ramblings by reminding me that it’s a fantasy game.

Also, says the person who does nothing but use their “nobody likes you” argument that’s only built to antagonize people. :point_down:


I see you’re also taking lessons from QuantiumTV’s school of projection.

This is called projection. Pot, meet Kettle.

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If you’re implying I said that, then your reading comprehension is really REALLY bad.

Lol. No. They’re not. Time doesn’t even exist without us to perceive it. Glad to know you failed physics class.

Yeah. That’s the point. Because it’s a videogame. I’m not the one trying to act like they have facts on their side when arguing about opinion on a VIDEOGAME

No, I didn’t. You just have something in your brain that makes you think everything everyone says is an argument that you need to dismantle and then embarrass yourself trying to do so

Because opinions are valid reasons when talking about opinions. What are you even trying to say?

LMAO. No I’m not even close to doing that. You however clearly are.

Case in point

*proceeds to state his opinion

This is some hilarious cope coming from the most antagonistic, contrarian poster on the forums.

I disagree, low drop rates are amazing, second only to FOMO items that actually disappear forever. Some of us enjoy having things almost no one else can or will ever get despite how much some people here don’t like it. I LOVE having rare items and it’s one of the main reasons I still play this game.

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Here, here. I agree.

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But getting rid of super low drop rates would quickly put my 11 alts that have been sitting at the Sha of Anger for the last 10 years out of the job.

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You literally have. :point_down:

Actually they are, because without them, society wouldn’t function. We wouldn’t have things like Video games, or Internet, or work schedules, or GPS, and so on.

Speaking of time, you had like 2 days to actually think out a response, and this is what i’m greeted with? :rofl:

Nice denial there mate. Considering it’s pretty convenient that now trying to do this “Oh it’s just a video game, so it doesn’t matter” as a legit tactic to try to refute only me, when you don’t realize that applies to you too. If it’s just a video game, why you’re responding to me seriously at then?

Critical thinking is not your strongsuit today, is it?

Saying “well i have fun” isn’t a substantive argument because fun is subjective. It can’t be measured in any reliable way. since everybody has a different idea of what fun is. Which is why it’s not used as a serious argument, because fun can derive from anywhere.

That fact you’re giving me this ad-hom here with this “embarrass yourself” (which is super ironic given you’re telling me time and distances aren’t objective measures), i mean you’re just proving what i’ve said there. You are positioning it as such. You haven’t exactly made an actual rebuttal to this.

Not inherently. You have to give valid reasons that go beyond just opinions instead of just saying “well i like it”, to make it valid reason.
Saying “I like it” isn’t “This is good”. And Vice versa.

Nice denial mate. It’s like you’re copying Hercule’s dumb arguments to a tee here.

I don’t know what goes on with you personally, and i rather not wish to know, but you seem to treat the idea of casual debate as a bad thing by overreacting and saying “oh i treat it as a court”. Not only your treating the idea of debate as bad (which coinvently only happens if it doesn’t go your way), and it’s pretty telling that you’ve never went to an actual court before, because this case would be insta- thrown out like days ago…

…But are you implying that i’m out to get you? Is that why you keep on saying “Oh i’m treating this as a court”?, because you think i’m out to destroy your reputation (which you did pretty much just fine on your own it seems) or something? :laughing:

You’re just another John Dicker Harry whozit i come across everyday on the street while i sip on my 5th cup of coffee today. Another monday morning.

Is that a problem that i think the game would be better off with consistent rewards to work towards, that benefits gamers who put in the effort, and not fuel and encourage those who have gambling addictions? :face_with_monocle:

This sort of “lol you being hypocrite” doesn’t really work, if you don’t explain what’s wrong with this argument i’m presenting here. Unless your actual argument is you care only about the corporation making money, which, i think that tells all we need to know that you’re not here to make the game better if that’s your thought process here.

You seem oddly offended that i said that, with your static mindset of thinking “This is a court case because you disagree with me!!” clouding your judgement, and proceeded to project upon me of your own issues here instead of looking at the reality of the situation like i’m doing here by calling it a casual debate. :laughing:

You might want to take a break from the forums if you’re getting THIS upset at somebody for having a casual debate to a point where you’re comparing it to court cases. I mean even some of the people whom i agree with right now, did just that and their the better for it. :slight_smile:

… I fail to see how that’s a bad thing other then you not feeling (which is subjective btw) special for having an artificial scarce item.

Scrolled down for this, was not disappointed.

I love dwarves

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“comments on this META ARGUMENT” you actually don’t know how to read or what?

That doesn’t somehow mean that these things aren’t concepts that our human minds made up. But clearly I am describing concepts beyond you and wasting my time.

Yeah, I have things like a job and hobbies like actually playing WoW.

Rich coming from you. The problem is you clearly have zero critical thinking skills and this gives you the advantage of incorrectly perceiving others who actually have critical thinking skills as not having it.

Except I do realize that. The problem is you don’t

Case and point this:

Except for when we’re talking about videogames… you know… the thing that you’re supposed to HAVE FUN WITH??

You’re in high school aren’t you? It’s amazing that you have such trouble understanding a simple concept. Time is literally a thing humans made up. It doesn’t actually exist.

Yeah, okay I’m not reading the rest of your ridiculous, zoomer ramblings

How to know someone didn’t get what they want. ROFL

I recently got the Infinite Timereaver and that moment when I realized was amazing. I will always remember how it happened and where I was in game. One of those special moments that happens along your WoW timeline since you started the game. A highlight if you will.

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Oh I will, I will.

I got the mount in less than 400 attempts, and I say the drop rate is too low.

So these annoying things in my bags are worf monies?!?

Honestly I’d argue not to interact.

People whom would argue over niche peculiarities in-game are similar to people IRL, where one of their friends could say that it’s raining where they are only for them to say “No it isn’t.” despite already knowing said friend is talking about where they live.

They’re not wanting a dialogue. They’re wanting semantics.

Oh looky, another comment where you took 2 days to reply. Let’s see if it’s any better.

Meta-arguments are arguments about one or more arguments, or argumentation in general.

Either way, if you’re going to say you’re not going to respond to something or “Not waste my time any further”, it would better to… not actually respond to something, to actually follow it up.

I’ve already explained why Time and Distance are objective. Even if they are made up as you said, their made up for the purpose for having a functional society to thrive at all with measurements like that. Things that are important like medicine, building plans and so on, and it what gives away more of the math as you see here that is intertwined in our society to take subjective feelings out of objectivity. No matter how you feel, a foot long is still a foot long. A Mile is still a mile. A Minute is still a minute. An Ounce of Water is still an ounce of water.

Normal people can understand that Time and Distance is objective.

So does everybody else mate.

And previously, you went from replying hour or less towards somebody to 2 days later.

Also, nice job using the “playing the game” subjective rhetoric that is often ill defined, and to act as if somebody playing the game differently then how you subjectively define it, is a moral sin in your books, because to you, playing the game in a certain way is akin to politics, despite the fact you’re constantly blaming the opposition for the same exact thing you’re doing. :roll_eyes:

Gosh, i wonder who’s the group of people that does that here? :thinking:

:tea: :elf:

Sounds like your projecting your own issues on to me mate. I was really hoping those 2 days will help me your comments better, but i guess that was wishful thinking on my part.

Except you don’t, because otherwise you would’ve stopped making arguments because to your own logic, “it’s just a video game” because, why would you care if you actually think “It’s just a video game”? You’re only using that as a silence tactic to draw attention away from your own hypocritical logic here. It’s intellectually cowardly because it has the capacity to be used to dismiss anything.

Including your thread while back ago here for purposes of this example. :point_down:

By your own logic, you’re shooting yourself in the foot here with your “it’s just a video game” Rhetoric. There is literally nothing wrong with debating about a topic that pertains to video games, as you’re heavily implying. The only problem that would have that problem is… ironically enough, Video game Journalists :tm:.

And there’s nothing wrong with realizing that fun is a subjective concept, as you implied heavily. Fun isn’t an objective measurement that can’t be used because it can’t be qualified given how subjective it is. The fact that there’s some people that aren’t playing this game or playing something like FF14 or GW2, shows that fun is subjective.

If you’re going to tell me i’m stupid, don’t follow it up with something stupid like this. :point_down:

It’s amazing that time and distance being objective, is a concept that can be easily grasped by Kindergardeners, given the fact they have a set schedule and PE exists, as well basic shapes and math. It’s a great thing to teach to kids.

And yet over here, you’re saying “it doesn’t exist”. You might want to join those flat earthers given how insane and misleading your arguments are, given that you don’t even explain properly how it doesn’t exist.

Apparently if i think Time and Distance is objective, that means i’m a Zoomer. :man_facepalming:

Aside from you getting my generation wrong when you could’ve easily looked in the thread on where i’ve said my generation…

… You still continue to double down this wrong idea, while insulting a generation of people, who, at this point are way smarter and can look at the facts, then try to pull whatever Alex Jones-etse conspiracy theory you’re pulling here where time is somebody not objective. They are smarter then you at this point.

This is literally you right now mate. :point_down:

too long didnt read :sunglasses:

Well i guess you don’t need to be correct then mister jones. :man_shrugging: