It already is, need people to remember the war in warcraft
Oh yes lets have a Faction War again what a wonderful Idea like it would totally be a fair fight too cause the factions are super balanced power wise… oh wait.
Like seriously Alliance are op like why even risk casualties instead give the Dranei a call and ask them to shoot a giant Death Lazer or somethin at Orgrimmar from their spaceship leaving it a massive crater.
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Alliance has things that could end the Horde but I imagine they don’t like the idea of wiping out an entire city, Nevermind a major capital city that is hub for a super huge world power.
Horde will lose anyways , its predictable , so whats the point of faction war ?
Probably not but if the Horde started another War it would make sense that they’d deem it a necessary for the greater good and safety of Azeroth considering it would be the 5th War now.
Who? Calling the Horde a huge world power is a stretch nowadays 
Ya, I’m with you…it’s tiresome at best and lazy at worst…people who want a faction war, just go play classic
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Because they came to the table and negotiated peace. Then Texas got subsumed into the US.
If the sides aren’t negotiating, then yes, total annihilation is on the table. Either via complete destruction or by annexation.
Least they left a tiny opening for SC3… One day…
Would have loved to see earth send the army to the sector rather than a tiny scouting force.
Especially when that scouting forced alone brought the sector to heel.
Germany still exist
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Blizzard literally cannot do a good faction war story. The game simply isn’t set up for one, not even remotely.
First, the status quo must be maintained. Neither side can lose the war. Borderlines must be kept approximately even. This is why even though Teldrassil and Undercity were both destroyed, they are both still territory of their respective factions, with a handy Bronze Dragon letting you go to those zones pre destruction. This is why Alliance won all the battlefronts, Darkshore and Arathi are Alliance territory. No major losses can be suffered.
Secondly, the factions are incredibly imbalanced. Horde leaders are often at odds with each other, with at least half of them being sympathetic to the Alliance. They are also mostly just “really good warrior” or “really good hunter”. The only two actually powerful Horde leaders are Sylvanas, who isn’t a leader anymore and got her powers from a deal with the devil so to speak, and Thalyssra… but more on her soon. Meanwhile, a large portion of Alliance leadership are very aggressive and hateful towards Horde, so they tend to hold a unified front (especially since Anduin tended to listen to Genns advice a lot). They are also very powerful. A god tier priest with visions of the future, a god tier warrior priest who can heal and revive all allies in a mile radius, a “very good huntress” who can call upon the power of Elune and knows how to become a Night Warrior, a literal demigod Druid who is good buddies with other demigods… and of course, Jaina, the strongest mage ever, so strong that Thalyssra, upon first seeing Jaina, was terrified of her power and told everyone to run like hell.
And that’s without getting into the fact that Horde numbers are realistically way fewer than Alliance numbers considering most of Hordes races are small tribes or even near extinct species, even before the Mists of Pandaria war and the rebellion against Garrosh decimated Horde numbers. Or that Alliance technology is, frankly speaking, superior to Horde in every way. Or that Alliance has access to a spaceship with an orbital laser cannon…
Horde must ultimately lose. It makes zero sense for Horde to ever win a war, what with all the disadvantages it has. It must also never be a convincing loss. Horde is so few in number that a convincing loss would be far too devastating to the status quo. Which, once again, must be maintained.
In order to have a good faction story, both sides must have wins abd losses. Just enough ti maintain that status quo. Horde is so pathetically weak in comparison, though, that in order for Horde to have victories, Alliance need to make concessions. Concessions like… Malfurion getting OTKed by an axe in his back. Tyrande literally not being allowed to do anything at all as a Night Warrior. The spaceship being forgotten about. The entire Alliance leadership being incredibly stupid by not preparing countermeasures to plague warfare when sieging a city known for its plague warfare. The entire Alliance leadership being incredibly stupid again by walking into a very obvious trap in the throne room. The Alliance being stupid yet again by killing Rastakhan when he wasn’t really thinking of joining the Horde, leaving his daughter Talanji in charge and very willing to join the Horde. And by the end of the BFA war, apparently Alliance running out of soldiers and having to conscript farmers - despite the fact that Alliance were, at this point, winning on all fronts.
In the end, Alliance doesn’t like faction war stories because they are made to look like idiots and they can never have a significant win against Horde, and Horde doesn’t lile faction war stories because they’re made out to be warmongering aggressors, their leaders always infight, and Horde cam never ever actually win the war.
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Yeah i argue false.
Look at tbc world pvp objectives or wintergrasp.
Make zones able to be captured and their be a lock out for it to flip.
Imagine if you could play through two seperate versions of Ashenvale
Even in Elder Scrolls online the faction owning the map so they’re the ones that could go into the imperial city was fun
- It’s fine.
- Less people like you with one dimension that define themselves by a singular motive the better.
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TBC world PvP objectives are literally nothing, just a few flags in mounds of dirt that routinely get swapped around. Wintergrasp is also a bad example, it was literally built to be a PvP zone. 99% of the zones in this game are not built for PvP and would have to undergo substantial redesigns to work for PvP.
And at the end of the day, that would just end up being just gameplay, not story, and it’d be just like warfronts with the factions taking turns owning it, because otherwise player number imbalance will lock out the other faction from ever getting it.
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Eso been out 10 years and it’s 3 factions are pretty balanced.
If there’s a will there’s a way, all this anti faction stuff is just making the Horde bigger and the alliance smaller
… Because Germany negotiated for peace.
What part of this aren’t you getting?
Are you joking? No, player-conquerable territory is always a bad idea for long-term game health. Not only does it hasten the Snowball Effect, it also encourages trolling the losers as hard as possible by denying them as much land as feasible.
Logistically speaking I have no idea how either side mustered enough troops to fight all these wars. They must be like bunnies during the downtime.
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ESO also has a more realistic war and having three factions makes it a lot more plausible for there to be an ongoing conflict still
I, personally, am a big fan of faction war and all things PvP, so I would love to see more of this type of thing…
It would be cool to see development in the game that is more war-centric, it’s something I noticed seems to be missing a bit from the last few previous expansions…
Especially as it pertains to World Pvp and some new features or modes that would breathe new life into it, and however that ties into story/lore and whatnot
After all, this is World of Warcraft
I want faction wars within the factions. Storywise the Alliance and Horde should have fractured a while ago.
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