“No one wants another faction war!” They said in response to people saying they want another faction war

I genuinely hope the people that still clamor for a faction war and complain about the game having too much “friendship” leave the game and don’t come back. I think the game would genuinely be better off if that was the case. Every time it’s always the worst kind of toxic player who complains about this kind of stuff, and I have yet to be proven wrong.

It’s him, we found him. The one single guy that Ion Hazzikostas told us is keeping us from being able to queue in the dungeon finder with our friends for silly, stupid reasons like “I don’t want to see a night elf in my random dungeon group”. Everyone point and laugh at him.

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I wish the player character was neutral, however that ship sailed at the release of the World of Warcraft.

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I dont want another lame, worn out, forced ‘war’ lol.
find some other way to bring conflict into the game other than telling me I supposed to hate alliance races because Im a horde race. lol
This isnt the hatfield and Mccoys

Given its race based, yeah…should have been this way from day one.
Let the leaders war all the way. I got nothing against Ukraine citizens anymore than i do the average Russian citizen. Its the leadership in both countries that need to be removed by force.
Most of the time the typical citizen of either warring country wants nothing to do with the wars their self serving leaders force on them.

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The mistaken belief that people in the forums speak for “the players” or that they speak for “the community”.

Now maybe Blizzard is reading this wrong and “the players” do want a return to faction wars and maybe they don’t. Fact is, we just don’t know.

Blizzard does have real evidence in that they can collect statistics on what features are being used/not used in the game but all we do not.

All we have to go by are the more vocal people in the forums who tend to be the people who have something to complain about, not the people who are happy with the way things are going.

Faction wars are boring, we already know how they end. Spoiler: nobody really wins, it ends in a status quo because Blizzard is not going to destroy a player faction.

Besides, it got to a point where they just stop making sense lore-wise. It just feels like you’re going in circles.

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Faction wars can be cool but personally I’d rather go back to just having distrust and hostilities not necessarily a war. Peace and friendship isn’t really a theme I enjoy for the game.

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The faction conflict is a dead end as far as narrative storytelling goes. Blizzard has gone pretty much as far as they could have with it without reaching the logical conclusion of one side taking the other off the board permanently.

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And for this reason I LOVE THE NEW TYR’S GUARD

This thread is like arguing about what most Marvel fans want next after Endgame. Legion was basically WoW’s “Endgame” equivalent to the MCU. It’s the one where they burned through the “break glass in case of emergency” lore reserves. Their non-faction threat department has been running on fumes (Azshara, N’zoth) and retcons (everything with the Jailer and the Shadowlands) and retcons built on fumes (all the threats of the Dragon Isles) ever since.

I don’t think there’s any winning move. Every expansion is like watching another scene in the epilogue to Return of the King after the one ring was destroyed. The audience is half-asleep and knows the real action’s over. Watching WoW try to do cosmic threat stories now gives the same feeling as when watching Marvel try to build up its multiverse stuff. “No guys, we’re serious, Kang the Conqueror is a bigger deal than Thanos!”

People are still invested in the gameplay. They still enjoy exploring new areas and encountering new aesthetics, which is certainly connected to introducing new stories. But in general what I see is absolute apathy when it comes to non-faction stories and non-faction threats in terms of actual plot. Even the faction conflict has less apathy than that - there’s still a flicker of interest when the player factions have fights.

Seen one person say go away we don’t need another. Go away
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Like hello?

That’s like being a Karen in a pizza place that is only there for the salad and when they are low on pizza they are like “we don’t want pizza at this pizza place, eat a salad or go away like OMG”

It’s so smooth brained.

There they are. Imagine being mad people want war in WARCRAFT. HA the audacity to want what the store is supposed to be selling

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Id be up for new factions.

Starcraft has 3 factions constantly at war. We should go to a 3 faction war.

Can you imagine if they removed the faction conflicts from Starcraft? :sweat_smile:

Agreed. We don’t necessarily need a war…but all this hippie kumbaya stuff is lame.

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In what war is an entire country destroyed?

History books read them.

Texas and Mexico had a war… both of these places still exist

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Stop trying to make it a thing.

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The faction war ended in WC2 with the horde losing. WC3 with the alliance losing it’s fleet and SoO with the remants of the WC2 horde being wiped out.

Maybe they could have brought it back with BFA had they made Genn siege UC first but they did not and such doomed the plot to failure.

It’s done, it’s over-used and it’s restrictions brought by it is immersion breaking for both gameplay and roleplaying.

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Yeah, ESO faction war is better imo

They did, when the story ended lol