The “But Serral” defense. LOL
Of the 93 times Zerg have squared off against another race in Playoffs/Championships between 2016 through 2019, Zerg has won 59 (63.4%) of the time.
That’s ALL Serral, is it? Even all the times that Serral was eliminated in the Round of 16?
Do you realize that if you nerfed all of the above Zerg would be extremely weak late game?
Not trolling. Corruptors are not great units? Have you played zerg. They are okay units.
What an impressively stupid and irrelevant statistic to pull up. And as dumb as it is, if you take Serral out it’s close to 50%, so you’re only making your argument worse.
Anything that shoots up? Corruptors can’t even fight back. The Problem there is the Broodlords able control space and zone anything on the ground. You’re complaining the wrong unit.
Do you realize that of the 93 times Zerg have squared off against another race in Playoffs/Championships between 2016 through 2019, Zerg has won 59 (63.4%) of the time? The highest win rate of a HOTS hero is 57.9% (Rexxar). The question isn’t if Zerg is overtuned, it’s by how much is Zerg overtuned.
The fact is, there needs to be some changes to Zerg. The only question is WHICH change. You’ve put up a FALSE DICHOTOMY fallacy. I’m not arguing that ALL of the units need to be nerfed. I’m saying that a nerf needs to happen. Try not to strawman my argument, dude.
LMAO Prove this. Go ahead. Try. What this spaz doesn’t get is that Serral usually faces off against other Zergs. These teenagers claim that Serral is facing off against Terrans or Protoss a majority of the time, which is UTTERLY bogus.
I was clarifying because I can’t tell what you think. Shouldn’t the question be if Zerg is overpowered and then if it is what particular aspect of Zerg should be nerfed, instead of focusing on a single unit in a vacuum?
Honestly, this statistic is too stupid to even talk about. If Zerg made one final out of 100 but won, the winrate would be 100%. I shouldn’t be surprised at how badly you people reach to justify your tears but I am.
How is this in a vacuum?
Can 52S of Corruptors take on 100S of BCs and Vikings or not, dude? Follow up question… why the HELL does HALF the supply of tier II Zerg units able to go up against TWICE as much Supply of Tier II and Tier III Terran Supply? Why is HALF the Supply of Corruptors able to DECIMATE DOUBLE the supply of Protoss Air? Give me a break, dude.
You’ve NEVER had a statistics course in your life, have you, spud?
I think corruptors by themselves get rolled really hard.
I don’t think it does my dude.
Has ANYONE seen this guy back up anything he has to say with ANY kind of research yet?
I have a degree in statistics. You probably watched a youtube tutorial about a normal curve and told yourself you’re an expert.
Are they by themselves, though? Ever? Who’s arguing in a vacuum now?
You are, which is what I’m pointing out.
An associate’s degree, obviously. I have a Master’s degree. I’ve had graduate level courses dedicated to it. Sorry, spud. You’ve done nothing but make blind assertions that make you look like a freaking biased fool.
Go ahead, spud. Go look at the playoff data from 2016-2019 and control for Serral, spaz. I’m not going to make your argument for you. Embarrass yourself all you like, though.
LOL Except I’m not. That’s why it’s only 100S, which is a large Zerg Air Army, but it leaves 20 (or more) Supply left for other things.
It takes ONE Viper to completely mitigate Vikings, because two Parasitic Bombs is enough to put a clump of Vikings in the red. SIX Infestors is enough to mitigate HALF of the BCs. That’s 15S in addition to the 100S of Corruptor + Brood Lord.
Is this “unrealistic”, spud?
The fact that you’re looking at tournament winners as a judge of balance shows how stupid you are. You have no idea what you’re talking about and you’re a waste of time I’m not going to bother with anymore.
Lots of Zerg Units was meant for massing…
Apparently you don’t know about the Roaches back in WoL - they cost 1 supply! YES ONE. I played those ladder games. 1on1 2on2 3on3 against those roaches.
It is how blizzard designed the race - today Roaches are not supply efficient at all,but back then of course they were too “cheap” (as supply also costs money and larvae).
So Overall I don’t like your proposal at all - it doesn’t fit to the game…
By the way could say the same about Zerglings, but splash and space/walling is balancing enough here. To be fair not really, as 4 zerglings ~ ~ 1 zealot. It’s fine. Another topic was Banelings’ Supply…
On a side note, vs Zerg you always want splash damage… it’s another design approach in the game… while zerg has more of the anti-hero design: Abduct, Neural.
To adress the strength:
Everyone knows Corruptors are really strong (THEY ARE THAT WAY SINCE WOL!!!), but everyone is also kind of fine with it, because they play the game quite long and know upsides/badsides about the race instead and how it belongs together… - of course that might not seem an argument now a days. However you can’t really involve Corrupters into the balance topic/problem here, imo. Despite their strength.
PS: TBH I personally don’t like them being quite well vs vikings/liberators/banshees already… but actually being really deadly vs Battle Cruisers… And in Lotv they can even attack Buildings O_O;. Carriers don’t count imo, as Protoss has really good splash and zoning vs air…. Corruptors can sometimes look really really bad trash here even when GMs play it vs Protoss, in the heavy late game… Hence you see other strategies… formerly Infestors. Ofc I know about Viper/corruptor play, but it’s not optimal and got outplayed by protoss players several times. Note that this is talking of ladder, not any tournaments - they use other strategies here and of course game pace and timings is a really big point in tournaments (pro level).