instead of trying to balance zerg anti air with a bunch of weird and annoying crap like vipers (especially abduct), and infestors, why not just give zerg swarm guardians as a capital ship. they would be similar to battlecruisers or carriers, they could have their yamato cannon equivalent be firing/spawning scourge. and could have a tactical jump equivalent of burrow and deep tunnel.
Broodlords are already the better version of Guardians.
If I was to give Zerg any air unit, it would be the Scourge, but i would remove Parasitic Bomb for it.
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yeah but brood lords don’t have any anti air
Neither did Guardians.
Zerg already has the best Anti air, Corruptors and Parasitic Bomb.
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but they can be made to have one, plus without a capital ship to provide strong anti air, zerg is given things that are extremely annoying to play with and against. I mean, does zerg really need the ability to delete a mothership that you spent half the game building just by having 1 viper in their army?
This sounds like you want the Devourer, not the Guardian.
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They have Guardian to the Protoss and renamed it to Tempest but with lower attack rate and far more expensive.
Yes why not give zerg a unit that has t3 terran ability, t3 protoss air to air attack and t3 zerg air to ground attack all in one unit
What could go wrong?
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Sounds like homogenization. Nah, I’ll pass.
Yeah, homogenization is too close to homosexuality for my tastes. Don’t want to get on Jesus’s bad side.
I’m already on thin ice for jerking it to traps
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They absolutely do not. Corruptors and pb are good, but pale in comparison to the anti air splash offered by terran’s mines, liberators, and thors.
Not at all!
Parasitic Bomb is more powerful Irradiate (a Terran spell from Brood War), that only affects air. There is no counter play to PB, you just take the damage and your unit will die, possibly taking along several others with it.
Corruptors are the most effective Aiti-Air unit in the game, based on cost, supply, and ease of access.
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No, parasitic bomb does 120 dmg, irradiate did 250. Pb does more dps, but irradiate does more. Parasitic bomb does not one shot anything, you take the damage but your unit won’t die by itself. Corruptors are good for anti air but lack the versatility of phoenixes and vikings, and furthmore do not make up for zerg’s lack of anti air splash. The point is that pb and fungal does a set amount of damage over time vs mines, thors, and liberators that deal splash on auto attacks.
Irradiate only worked on Organic units, PB works on all flyers, and deals damage faster, with a bigger AoE.
Mutalisks and PB are plent of Anti Air splash for Zerg. Heack, Protoss does not even have Anti Air splash! Only Zerg and Terran do.
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Yes, and irradiate also affected ground units. The point is that zerg doesn’t have anything like thors, liberators, mines, or archons, aka an aa unit that shoots aoe. All zerg has is casters that deal a set damage over a set time, but nothing to let them ever take a straight up fight.
And Protoss has archons, which have bonus vs literally every zerg unit, as well as storm.
But they do, and I already gave you 2 examples!
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Except you didn’t, fungal and pb do not shoot anti-air aoe. They are spells that deal aoe, but that is different from a unit that shoots aoe because the damage doesn’t stack.
PB is anti-air AoE. Fungal is multipurpose AoE. Mutalisks deal chain damage (a form of AoE), and can attack air.
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Mutalisks do not do aoe, their glaives can hit multiple targets but that is worse than aoe which can hit infinite targets within a set radius. Pb and fungal are spells, terran and protoss both have units whose autoattacks deal anti air aoe, which allows the damage to stack, unlike pb and fungal.
Most AoE is damage-capped to prevent this.
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