So, with 10 vikings (20 supply) vs 5 archons (20 supply), you can have 8 vikings remaining if you try hard micro. That’s basically the story vs every Toss unit. If you truly want to win, you can beat anything with just vikings. Handily, too.
A lot of pro players agree on that, even from different races.
I wouldn’t want to see it nerfed to the ground either. Splash damage, particularly splash damage against air is necessary to deal with or prevent air death-balls at some point.
Vikings hard counter every air unit worth anything. Until they make the tempest be an anti air unit with splash, like it was originally supposed to be, there is absolutely nothing that will change that, sans HUGE nerfs to the viking.
I actually like the carrier how it is now. I like that it doesn’t take years to make one, and I like how it doesn’t just step onto the field and own life. Protoss anti air is too non existent to face a better carrier (could make it better if you made the tempest better, though).
If one race is going to hog all of the anti air, it would be nice if that race also didn’t have the BC, though. I know, it makes too much sense, though.
Well, Protoss has no artillery unirts at all, so getting one would be nice.
Tht is because it is a no brainer, and the thing that hurts Carriers the most, is how AA splash has become so good at destroying Interceptors.
To playa I want to say, zealots beat viking at equal supply(not even talking about equal cost, there it’s hilariously one-sided in zealot’s favor) unless the armies are big in which case vikings win(at equal supply) because being ranged gives and advantage in big fights, and a zealot is much, much cheaper than a viking…
At the pro level, PvT stands at 55% in favor of Protoss. What’s your malfunction?
Tempest is a artillery unit. It just has no splash. Giving it splash would be a HUGE buff… but I think it would be too much, because it would add Tempest to Storm, Colossi, Disruptors, and Archons. Protoss have a CRAP ton of splash damage already, and that’s what makes Bio so hard to play against Protoss. And Mech is useless against Protoss.
I never asked to give it splash, just single target damage vs Armour, as to make it complement Void Rays and Carriers, as a defense against Thors and Cyclones, and also as an offensive tool to dislodge Tanks or snipe Ultralisks.
Lol, how did you quoted different person but with my name in it…