Toss and Zerg can F2 A move to masters

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Such a joke - and they call this balance hahahaha seriously what a joke
toss and zerg players want to deny it but its facts they can F2 a move to masters

Let’s evaluate this data again - there are more zerg and toss in higher level ranks respective of their player base % than terran.

Terran does not have a linear progression like the other two races. That means despite playing majority mirror match ups, Zerg and Toss still make it out on top.

Before Masters 2 , these races are truly easy

Zerg % vs other races Protoss % vs other races Terran % vs other races
Grandmaster 147 26.30% 210 37.57% 182 32.56%
Master 2576 27.45% 3074 32.76% 3158 33.65%
Diamond 16564 30.54% 15413 28.42% 16887 31.14%
Platinum 14575 29.88% 13915 28.53% 15366 31.51%
Gold 12904 25.05% 15373 29.85% 18723 36.35%
Silver 9377 20.56% 13502 29.60% 19344 42.41%
Bronze 2434 20.27% 3228 26.89% 5493 45.76%
Total 58577 64715 79153
Zerg % amongst own race Protoss % amongst own race Terran % amongst own race
Grandmaster 147 0.25% 210 0.32% 182 0.23%
Master 2576 4.40% 3074 4.75% 3158 3.99%
Diamond 16564 28.28% 15413 23.82% 16887 21.33%
Platinum 14575 24.88% 13915 21.50% 15366 19.41%
Gold 12904 22.03% 15373 23.75% 18723 23.65%
Silver 9377 16.01% 13502 20.86% 19344 24.44%
Bronze 2434 4.16% 3228 4.99% 5493 6.94%
Total 58577 64715 79153
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Oh look, it’s this thread again

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By all rights, if this is correct, so can Terran. It’s really not that different?

I agree that this is weird but it’s really not that odd. Terran is disproportionately appealing to players who will end up with a lower rank because it has more tools that speak to the more casual player.

But, frankly, looking at the numbers, the thing that’s more strange to me is how populated Zerg is in Diamond/Platinum, and how different Z/P are in silver. The relative difference is pretty high and I would have expected the nonhuman and lower defensive strengths to drag those down about equally for silver.

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Look Zerg has most spell casters.

You know if play more difficult lvls you get better faster.

Marine and tank with medivacs compared to Zerg. It’s very hard to beat especially on a move.

Terran has way higher chance winning especially map on hill rock in corner you can kill 3 times worth banes. So Zerg does poorly can bankrupt it self with banes.

So take this for example 70% Terran play this style and you become Zerg can counter without fallen in pit holes and beat 90% time you be masters.

Terran will get stuck since tactic would stop working so they try better micro which can create this divide. Ones that get good at splitting stutter stepping doing multiple attacks same time move up. Plus the fact how fast you micro is age related. So it’s possible Terran is older audience that depends on micro then come up with strat to counter lack speed.

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Stryker for the love of god get yourself an interpreter, no one ever understands a word you say.

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I’m not surprised he can’t speak english properly. Most zerg players have lowest Iq these days on average. Even Harstem mentioned that in his previous balance patch preview. Stryker is illiterate to me. I wonder if he can even speak his first language properly.

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This is just mean spirited. It’s obviously not their primary language. Playing a different faction in a video game doesn’t give you carte blanche to just be unpleasant about people.

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what is the point in participating in a forum discussion if you cannot articulate your thoughts opinions, suggesions etc so that others can understand them ? If i couldn’t speak english i wouldn’t be making comments or threads.

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or at the very least learn to use google translate.

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Except that’s not what you said, was it? Instead you insinuated they’re an idiot

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to be fair, this dude usually never makes sense even when he does get the majority of his talk right, and most of it is bs garbage and has always been that way. but i do agree with you on abs being a bit over the top here, but at the same time this isnt even the worst this dude has been told already at this point.

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I wasn’t taking issue with your post. I was taking issue with casting aspersions on someone’s IQ because they don’t type English well (and because they play a race in a video game)

I just think it’s low

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i know you werent takeing issue with mine, and i totally agree with you for the most part, but that being said when this guy is typing good enough people can understand his point, there usually just bs garbage anyways, to be fair on abs point as well.

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i was literally gonna write the same thing bro. LOL!!

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The stats you showed doesn’t really make the case for Zerg. But I definitely agree with your Protoss a move claim.

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Eh it might look like A-move but it really isn’t. Or rather, it isn’t if the Protoss is interested in doing good stuff.

Those zealot runbys and pressure? Yeah there’s shift click targeting and splitting going on there. If you see a gigantic blob of Zealots derping behind one another, then yeah that’s 1-A 100% but if you don’t see that, it’s being micro’d. It’s just hard to tell.

Let’s go onto other units. Stalkers are the worst when 1-A’d. Their damage is garbage and they’re made of glass. If you’re not blink micro’ing they’re more or less a liability.

Sentry is pure micro. Nuff said.

DTs are like Zealots, they look like 1-A but there’s targeting, splitting and in their case, blinking going on.

HT are pure micro too.

Archons if 1-A’d can be massive wastes of their anti biological AoE attacks, usually you want to focus fire with them when applicable. Especially vs air.

Immortals kinda are 1-A but there’s cheeky target firing there too, depending on the situation.

Colossus are almost purely 1-A, the only time you’re not 1-Aing them is when they’re attacking the wrong troops or you’re trying to kite them back to keep them alive longer…so you can 1-A them later on lol.

I can keep going but why? I made my point: Protoss isn’t really 1-A. It looks like 1-A because you don’t see lings trying to flank or a bunch of bio stutter stepping but it really, really isn’t. Except for the Colossus which really is an A-move unit that does not benefit from micro. I mean it literally had animation cancelling removed from it in early WoL. Blizzard doesn’t want it to be microable lol.

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ICA is the biggest 1a comp there is. stalker colossus by comparison has more control requirements unironically. People always whine that their colossus is fighting assimilators and depots despite having 9 range. If only they knew that clicking the marine ball instead of just a moving will delete most of terran’s dps in an engagement. Blizzard even gave protoss turret tracking to help with stutter step micro but we barely see it in action because all you need is a warp prism for it to blink around.

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It’s hilarious to see the top protoss attacking refineries in tournaments and then people are confused why they lose. I saw one just the other day, too. They don’t multitask, multi prong, focus fire, split micro. I am sure they know how to do these things so why don’t they. The game is happening faster than they can react. They are simply slower players. They miss opportunities that only exist for half a second.

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I tell you, Protoss hasn’t been the same since sOs (Protoss GOAT don’t @ me) stopped playing at the top level. When all the good Protoss were still in the game, herO was second rate compared to people like sOs, Zest, Classic. With MaxPax apparently just not wanting to play offline, it is kinda sad that Protoss hopes are squarely on herO’s shoulders. He’s obviously one of the most capable players in the world, but he’s standing on the shoulders of much bigger giants.

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max pax is royalty, thats why he wont play offline. he doesnt want people to know who he really is.