This is a zvz so not a balance complaint:
https://i.imgur.com/yUCi5CK.png
https://i.imgur.com/IevzY58.png
https://i.imgur.com/CAHGknv.png
Guess who won! Was it red or blue?
The design of SC2 is such utter trash that you are guaranteed a 100% win-rate if you are willing to camp for eternity. This guarantees a win even if you are M A S S I V E L Y behind the entire game. Literally nothing else is relevant. You can be outclassed in tactics, strategy, apm, multitasking, income, upgrades - nothing matters except that you are patient. SC2 is not an RTS game, itâs a patience game and nothing else.
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Divad Kim is gone now.
Rest assured, SC2 will become great again.
You know what the saddest part is about zvz? Besides playing or watching it? Ovy base speed was increased because of pro zergs whining.
They were whining that ovies were too slow. To scout the other zerg in time. Can you believe that audacity?
Zerg killed the game years ago. Since 2017 or so. Whenever all the blizzcon finals started being zvz. Stopped watching.
Show me the army value graph. I am betting there is a reason why you are hiding it. Virtue signaling at its finest
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Youâre just not good at macro games my dude. Weâve all known for a long time.
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If we look at the worker count we cann start making theories, red starts dronning more, that means blue made military units instead of drones, the difference goes up to 10 workers, and then we see a drop in worker count from red, that means there was an attack which reinforces the idea of blue making extra army instead of drones. Upgrade graphs shows blue having less upgrade investment at the beginning, that means he was making units instead of teching.
Obviously he didnât show replay or army graphic because that tells most of the story, maybe even the turtle player lost but he is talking like he won.But as always, I wouldnât believe anything he posts, is always manipulated in some way, we donât even know if he is the player, and which player is him, we only know that some player couldnât win with a 40 dronne difference, so Iâm sure there was some kind of awful fights and terrible trades.
But the funny thing is that he once said that ZvZ is pure skill and the one who wins is the best player because by definition the only thing that matters on that matchup is the skill.
Every time he showed his gameplay was always some kind of cheese, then he complains why a T lifts his OC on a small map against a barcode cheesing Z.
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is that the time scratched out, because we can see the game length on the graph at the bottom, that is just too good.
honestly it looks like you were playing a friend for 3 games, (both barcodes) for long game periods so you could âprove your pointâ without looking suspicious⌠youâre telling me nobody used a real ID? ⌠good lord.
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How do Pro zergs even deal with the amount of zvz that they have to play?
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LUL?
Op win of the game. It show victories on his screen⌠LUL 
:brian: can not readâŚ
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Does that somehow invalidate his claim?
You do realize that I won a macro game from behind, right? What you are doing is the equivalent of walking up to Arnold Schwarzenegger, right after he won a Mr. Olympia, and saying âWe all know youâre not good at lifting my dude.â There are too many low IQ dingos on these forums.
I deliberately went 2 base mass spore and lurker turtling just to prove the point that you can completely forsake any progression in the game (upgrades, tech, eco) and still win just by being patient regardless of the fact that you are incredibly far behind. Macro games donât take skill, they take patience.
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How long was the game? You said you know. So please list it down to the second. Thanks.
How would I know, even as youâre telling me this. Youâre releasing such a limited amount of information. In fact, you do this over and over: post very small snippets of some game and then try and narrate the rest of what âhappenedâ to us. For someone that was talking about how small sets of data can be used to prove any point, and the unreliability of it, I have to assume youâre purposefully attempting to mislead us.
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i donât see why that even matters, but the fact that itâs crossed out amazes me.
i guess iiiiiiiiiiii win do i get it right
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Thereâs plenty of information to gauge who was behind and who won despite being behind. In no universe should a person this far behind ever win a game. Turtling is overpowered to the point it overshadows every other aspect of the game. It needs to be deleted. If you donât actively try to win the game the system should give you a loss.
Turtling also doesnât take any skill because you can be outclassed in every other respect and still win. I played this game from behind just to prove how absurdly broken turtle strategies are. I mined 4 bases and he got the rest of the map. I was on 2 bases when he was on 6. Turtling needs to be deleted from the game.
Any chimp can play a macro game these days since turtling is so easy.
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Thanks for admitting you lied and canât actually see the game length. The game length is blacked out because there are psycho forum trolls who will search through the match history of every account until they find one with a game on the same map and same duration. Youâd be amazed what people smarter than you can do with even a small amount of personal information. Those clowns ought to be locked up in the looney bin but you go ahead and keep crying because the game length is blurred out.
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ALL that matters in any competitive game is that a player won. None of these other metrics matter.
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