Who are these rogue whine terrans who hath brought about the end of protoss?? I want their names. They should be taken to a special tribunal where all the cheesers are the judge and the jury… the death penalty would of course be considered.
Shield battery nerfs make basically all cheeses bad or much weaker, proxy void isnt a build anymore. Why not just play TvT all day at this point. Protoss at masters and above is garbage now.
Terran was the race that needed nerfs before this… not protoss. Look at top GM winrates over the previous patch. Trap was the only one who could win a tourney as protoss and he is the best.
Do whats right. Revert back, and nerf terran some more.
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As Protoss I say thee “Nay”
It was a boring meta, and a bit unbalanced in the fact that the cheeses were so hard to defend. Altough I think a buff to some more interesting Protoss units would be welcome.
I’d be down for a buff to gateway units. Marines/marauders can just beat any comp too easily.
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Rofl a protoss noob who only cheeses every game has spoken. The fact that some want to play toss like that justifies all Terran says about toss players - 70 apmers skytoss a movers or cheesers.
No you do not deserve even the 3200 mmr of diamond. Learn to play less cheap!
And trump supporter oh my, that two things speak a lot about the iq of this one. But worry not the facility of Myanuz is here to help
Maybe partial revert to some zealot nerf or stalker but their effect scale too much in numbers
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It’s still a thing. But it’s not as good, and that was entirely the point. Nerfing the shield battery also leaves room to buff other things, like reducing the cost of the immortal, for example, which was a previous nerf due to proxy robo being absurdly powerful in the past.
According to… what stats, exactly? GLS is 4/3/3 Z/T/P right now. In the last two years, Terran has had the least tournament victories AND the least tournament runner ups, followed distantly by Protoss, and then Zerg being vastly ahead of both - surprise surprise.
Protoss also make up the large majority of GM right now (and no, I’m not advocating for more toss nerfs).
Dangerous and difficult to do so without basically redesigning Protoss from the ground up so there isn’t a reliance on warp-gate. Warpgate specifically makes Protoss incredibly hard to balance. I’d be curious to see some though, what would you suggest?
Oh yea let brake lore part where protoss tech race by no warp mechanics big oof
usually the people whining don’t actually play the game… it’s pathetic.
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As a terran player i support the idea of buffing gateway units at the expense of all so called “band-aid” mechanisms - force fields, shield battery, (nexus/pylon overcharge in the past), recall etc and most importantly:
WARPGATE - this trash should never exist. It was single-handedly the reason why protoss was so potent at all sorts of cheese/all-in tactics that rely on fast-repetitive reinforcements such as 4 gate, blink all-in, dts and so on.
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Protoss had warp and had +8 charge zealot guess who cried about good gate units! 50 mineral marine or 100 mineral zealot who now was garbage
That’s exactly what im talking about. Gateway units should be buffed because without aoe support they are no match for stim bio or hatchery tech units. But to compensate for that protoss needs to get rid of all those defensive mechanisms otherwise gateway units will be broken.
Even aoe itself was garbage if terran needs all unit begin witch M till then no logic way made aoe who cant fght itself together witch meat or not
Yet most defensive race terran good luck brake pf witch ground army it needs armada too breaking
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Oh yes…cheese toss tears…keep them coming they nourish me
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You noobtoss doesnt realize your race is still the EASIEST in teh game by FAR …
Stop crying and l2p, all protoss takes to reach high GM is 80 apm
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Apm never be measure of skill cap cappa
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True. But APM is an indicator introduced to measure the amount of EFFORT it takes for each race to play effectively. Protoss has lowest APM because they have fewest amount of units to manage - bunch of stalkers, zealots and FEW archons, immos, collossi. On comparison terrans and zergs have dozens of cheap fragile units to train, manage and micro: marines, marauders, lings, roaches, banes. If protoss goes skytoss then you can literally play with 50 apm behind forest of shield batteries. Also toss has automatic gateway into warpgate transformation (don’t know why as if this required tons of actions to do), select all warpgates button and automatic interceptor build (also don’t know why, carriers are mostly a-move, so building interceptors manually should’nt be a problem for average 70 apm toss.
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As Harstem says there no micro in carrier just fire power meh no automatic gate fine but protoss effort split voids against para bomb save some disruptors till on cooldown or micro ms?
Weird, I wasn’t having any issues playing PvT this weekend, I just…you know…didn’t cheese, lol. Macro builds are totally unaffected by the Protoss nerfs unless you need Void Rays, then the cost increase hurts a little.
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That’s what the entire community tries to tell protoss players after this patch but they don’t get it
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you are bad, shut up terran