Tested Better Game Balance by MyOhMind

That is what I’m likely going to do, the Tempest has such a slow fire rate because it originally had 22 range and how the ATG range used to be 15. They have been decreasing the range of the Tempest back to more reasonable ranges but they never changed the fire rate to go along with it.

I’d also really encourage trying out the instant or very fast projectile speed.

The tempest shoots giant capitol ship sized Frisbee at things. But can’t 1 shot a marine with them lol

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I always thought that was dumb, which was why I suggested changing the animation to the Archon’s. Because The TEMPEST shooting energy frisbees is weird. Shooting lightning makes sense because it’s the TEMPEST. It’s mostly a thematic change to make the unit less dumb looking but it’s also a minor buff as it’ll be less inclined to overkill, which is important.

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Just picture you as a person being hit with an entire sports stadium and surviving.

That’s a Marine vs Tempest fight.

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You keep deflecting. :stuck_out_tongue:

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Because I’m trying to work on things :thinking:

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WTF are you talking about. Ultralisks were not changed !!!

They were changed in the mod. Use them with your army. Ultralisk now push other units out of the way and cannot be pushed around by other units. No more pathing problems.

All it took was changing the Ultralisk push priority from 10 to 11

Just give Tempest the Dezintegration Blast and call it a day. The day when Infestors would use MS and the Tempest would counter with Dez-Blast would be hilarious.
Also for the cost and power Tempest should go to 4 supply and Void to 3 Supply. That would help the late-game Protoss.

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I’m also thinking that. But it seems like the Tempest is suffering from what the Thor’s HIP had. High damage, slow slow fire rate.

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They can fix that (Tempest and Adept suffer from that) by making the battlefield DPS approach (still not equal) to the paper DPS. Both units suffer from 5-45% loss of DPS from overkill.
A way is to use the remaining bolt strike the nearest enemy units (in a range 1-2).
Example: Tempest strikes with a 40 attack a 45 hp marine, the second shot will kill the Marine and the remaining ball of 40-5=35 damage will hit the nearest marine…
This will hugely help Tempests and Adepts without the need to increase their DPS.

That is nice fantasy you have here, blizzard will never implement these changes ever. They are to scare to break something and hesitant to make big changes, only once per year and how it goes, they leave it another year in the game broken. Dream on blizzard will never do any of these changes, they don’t care about some gold leaguer on forums, they listen only to 0.1 top pros…

They actually have implemented changes from it(the mod) over time.

The changes in the mod are the exact opposite of “big”, and they work extremely well with gameplay and are balanced.

I think they will if they can see them and play them. The changes in gameplay are extremely refined and do exactly what they say they do.

TvP Mech is now viable(also the AAM splash bug is fixed).

TvZ Lurkers are viable

Ultralisk now have better pathing

Adepts now have more mid game utility that separates them from the Zealot.

I’m actually a consistent masters with all 3 races on the EU and KR. Used to be GM with each race but never at the same time.

News flash, they don’t even listen to them most of the time because they tend to be very biased because money is on the line. Also most pro’s don’t even know basic unit stats and get things wrong all the time. They know a lot about the game but at the same time they are as clueless as a bronze league about the game. It’s fascinating really.

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Realistically. Fire rate increase for both ATG and ATA or supply cost reduction to 4?

Considering the natural-decay of the terran race player-base, Blizzard will again nerff Protoss and Zergs this coming January.
In order to retain the 50% winrate the only solution is to buff Terrans and nerff Protoss/Zerg.
Dr. Prof. Berserk will testify that if a patient (chronic-alchoolic) is denied booze, he risks going into (DT) Delirium-Tremens which is a serious matter in 24 to 48 hours.

Terrans can retain their 50% winrate not more than a couple of months. If you see, MoronTeam buffs Terrans each 2-3 months and Nerffs Protoss/Zergs also each 2-3 months…

Goba, have you played the Mod recently at all?.

I really do want to come up with some good Tempest changes.

Why would you want adepts increase their ats to 60% for 6 seconds, noone will use that, it is not better than 45. You will go just zealot. So you say you made mods, exactly with all of these changes before and they are implementing them ?? Maybe you made similar mod, if you think blizzard implements your changes you are delusional… Thor aa was discussed long time before. There is nothing about ultralisk in new patch. There is lurker change, but show me mod before, when you proposed all of these changes. You kidding right ?

I don’t want that at all. Glaives was never ever touched in my mod.

They have several times before.

BC attack while moving

100/100 blue flame cost

Mothership heroic tag

Voidray flux upgrade for speed returning.

Faster lurker den build time

And several others…

Now you are being really dense. Not every Blizzard change has came from my Mod. I’m saying that some Blizzard changes have been exactly from it.

But than you listed tvp mech, tvz lurker, ultras, adepts. So it seemed like you advocate these and that they are from your mod.
Still i don’t believe you sh1t, that they implement your changes. Send me topic, where are listed these changes and a date. That shouldn’t be hard to find, if you really made these… If they really implemented them, than okay, but otherwise you are full of sh1t… Seem really strange, given blizzard don’t give sh1t…