Hey, you were finally honest for once.
Modern SC2 doesn’t have micro. Terrans siege their tanks and liberators and F2 their thors around. This game has less micro than League of Legends and Dota 2.
I played quite a bit of WC3 with buddies way-back-when. We used to make custom maps and do hero battles. It was fun, but WC3 really can’t hold a candle to any of the other games in the genre (League, Dota, SC, etc).
Chess has a broad variety of tools that are used to solve a broad variety of problems. Strategy is about coming up with strange solutions to known problems, and which your opponent won’t anticipate. Because he doesn’t anticipate it, he is a turn or two behind you in knowing what’s going on. That gives you a turn advantage, which is the most valuable resource in a turn based game.
That’s so far from true it’s practically delusional. I saw an analysis of a game with Magnus Carlson in the late game. I think he had a rook and pawn and a king left. According to the best computers, the only way to win from his position was to make a very specific set of 86 moves. He didn’t make the right move, and won anyway.
All endgame states with fewer than 7 pieces have been solved by computers, and do you want to guess how many solutions there are? There are 423,836,835,667,331. There is no human way to remember that many possibilities, and that’s just the end game with fewer than 7 pieces left.
Magnus Carlson is the GOAT of chess (you could actually argue it’s Kasparov) because he has a very good understanding of what tools are available, how to identify and classify problems, and how to use those tools to solve those problems. There is no way you can win chess through memorization. It’s simply not possible.
SC2 on the other hand has very simple build orders that pro players spam on repeat like robots, because what determines the outcome of the game isn’t the build orders but, rather, the multitasking aka how fast they click. Pushing the game from 1-3 base plays to 5-7 base plays was an enormous design mistake because it made out-multitasking your opponent into the primary mode of winning. It was absolutely idiotic that blizzard made those design changes.
Translating this into chess, it would be like if you are playing 10 games of blitz chess simultaneously. Obviously, nothing matters except making moves as fast as possible.
Changing the game to emphasize multitasking was really the nail in the coffin that killed SC2, by the way. When they started artificially prolonging the game, the popularity peaked and went down from there. You can see this correspondence clear as day if yo contrast the date of balance patches against the popularity of the game. The moment they went after “game ending moments”, the game’s popularity peaked. Sc2 was a colossal design failure. It went from #1 in esports to #1,000. They had a pair of aces and they somehow lost. Micheal Jordan was about to slam dunk for them, and they paused the game and substituted a toddler in his place.
SC2 forumites after learning that GMs play against & beat professional players basically all the time:
Who exactly did you think the pro players were practicing against when they laddered – masters league players, perhaps? Lmao this understanding of the ladder/game is so “nooby” it’s actually quite cringy. OMG YOU PLAY PRO PLAYERS? YOU ARE LYING!
I used to play vs Incontrol a lot. He was fun to play against because he wasn’t a crybaby. I’d elevator some lings into his main’s mineral line and he’d say, “I’ll take it, right to the TEETH!” and then quit. Obviously, that’s a boxing reference. There was no “waa waa you are a cheeser and couldn’t win a macro game waaaaaa waaaa.”
Imagine crying about “cheese” in a game as easy as sc2. You can legit roll your face on the keyboard and get GM, but people still cry about “cheese” and “hackers” and “stream snipers.” I wish my opponents would hack because it might make SC2 hard enough that it’s worth playing again.
Goba absolutely still posts, lmao. The problem is that forum moderators became extremely aggressive at banning literally anything. If 3 people report a post, that person is instantly banned regardless of if they broke a rule or not. I once made a sarcastic comment in a thread where two people were threatening to kill each other. It was something about how they needed to get a room, or something. I got banned for that comment because it was “inappropriate”. The other two were allowed to continue posting.
The result of this is that literally everyone got banned eventually, and so nobody posts here anymore. That’s made it a half-decent place to post, because all the trolls basically nuked each others accounts out of existence.
There are two claims I’ve made.
- Claims backed by video proof.
- Claims about having a basic, normal life.
Obviously, you must be referring to #2. Ouch. What an incredible self-diss. PhD Kelthar strikes again. A normal life is so unbelievable it must be a lie, but the people denying the video proof magically aren’t caught by Kelthar’s “lie radar”. What an absolutely wild and hypocritical contradiction. This is what you call mad jealousy, lmao.
Imagine thinking that owning a jacuzzi is so unbelievable that it must be a lie. Lmao. I actually have a cousin who is a jacuzzi repairman and he hooked me up. There was a store that sold jacuzzis that was going bust, and they were liquidating everything. I got it for half-off. This was like 7 years ago and it’s still running great. I actually ran into him at a funeral and got talking and he mentioned he could hook me up. It was this same funeral where I ran into a hot babe who was a professional ballerina. She was a family friend and she tagged along with one of my cousins. I could see her thirsty eyes checking me out from across the room. I almost felt uncomfortable. Like, is there something wrong with my suit? I just got it back from the dry cleaners. I went with a blue tie on a red shirt. It was a three piece. I just stood out from the crowd because all the mormons in utah always war white shirts. Ladies love bold colors, especially on a good looking man. They just can’t resist. You just stand out from the crowd and aren’t scared of judgement, which are leadership qualities. So it’s a win win from all angles. The ladies start picturing wedding rings and tuxedos the moment I stroll in.
I have a lot of buddies who play SC2. One of them lived not too far away so we got together and became IRL friends. This was like 10 years ago. He was really into dating and I was busy in business type things back then. He would tell me all the time that he’d go on dates, and the girl would ask about his friend group, and that they were always super interested in me out of all his friends. He thought it was so odd, which is why he mentioned it. He tried to hook me up with a bunch of chicks but I just wasn’t interested back then. Now I’ve got the sports cars and houses and cash to burn.
Truth be told, the reason I wasn’t interested in chicks was partly because I was so focused on business, and partly because I was just broke and didn’t have money to dedicate to anything but business. I legit didn’t want to be distracted / tempted to spend money on anything else, because that would jeopardize my business investments. My buddy used to joke about me being a celibate “business monk”. I’d deliberately isolate myself from the dating scene because I didn’t want to spend money. It’s like a monk going off to a monastery. Now my “bowlcut” username makes a bit more sense, eh? It’s an inside joke. Do I need to explain it to you, you absolute nitwits. Monks have bowlcuts. Me and my buddy thought it would was flipping hilarious. .