Terran late game is underpowered

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To me, a balanced game means that each race is equally viable at each stage of the game (beginning, middle, and end). But late-game we are so underwhelming. Both Zerg and Protoss are so strong late game.

Both zerg and toss have very scary late-game compositions. Zerg can get ultralisks, infestors, and brood lords. Toss has many deathball compositions, like skytoss (e.g., mass tempests for instance).

Terran has no such late-game composition. Specifically, our late-game damage is very weak. We don’t have that “deathball” composition that can win games like Z and P do.

Unless we win it in the middle game, it’s pretty much over. That just does not seem balanced to me.

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dunno what you’re talking about, i constantly am getting wrekt by late game terran who know how to play it, ghosts are extremely powerful with libs / tanks widow mines, sometimes i feel it’s near impossible to break depending on how it got there.

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Clearly, you have no clue how to play late game.

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Right. Neither do any of the pros. You know who truly understands the late game? Nobody forums Zergs.

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@PoLyGLoT
Switch to the race you are most convinced is better late-game than Terran.
Play it, and after you get wrecked by other Terrans late game, you will then realize it is about how every game develops in the late game, and also opponets who are better than you at the game, and not a balance issue between races.
Races balance is anyway made looking at top grand-masters’s games, not the leagues below, so just deal with it !

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The consensus is that protoss have that title now

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dunno what you’re talking about, i constantly am getting wrekt by late game terran who know how to play it, ghosts are extremely powerful with libs / tanks widow mines, sometimes i feel it’s near impossible to break depending on how it got there.

Please show me a pro level game where that combination beats infestor / brood lord or maxed skytoss.

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Clearly, you have no clue how to play late game.

Please educate me with your diamond wisdom.

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late game Z > late game T > late game P, you absolute noob

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i’m not talking about pro level, i’m talking about my own struggles… as we all should… crying about what happens to the pros is so mind boggling.

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this guy is stuck in 2015, still thinks skytoss wrecks everything; he is 9 wins 21 losses on the season, meaning he doesn’t even play the game and when he does, he loses, hence the post

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Terran late game isn’t in a bad state like it once was. Thors, BC’s, Ghosts and Liberators are all strong late game units now and they partner very well with each other.

What terran late game is currently missing is good AOE vs non-Light air in TvZ and TvT. This can be fixed by buffing the Liberators AA mode damage a little(from 5 to 6) and also buffing the Thors AOE splash AA mode damage from 6(+6 vs light) to 8(+4 vs light).

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Marine , Ghost , Lib , Viking , Thor , did i miss something? widow memes .

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Marine , Ghost , Lib , Viking , Thor , did i miss something? widow memes .

Marines and WM’s are phased out in the late game.

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Serral loses to gumiho and innovation in the Late game (iem 2019)

Maru vs scarlett in 2019. the WESG one on king’s cove scarlett technically won thanks to some weird chinese tournament rule, but maru should have at worst tied. then there was the GSL qualifier one

Dark lost to Keen in the lategame just now in code S s3.

Time beat soO in the lategame in GSL vs the World

Heromarine beat elazer’s lategame WCS summer

Heromarine vs reynor (i think he did it a couple of times vs reynor, the one i remember was wcs winter though)

special vs reynor in gsl vs the world

soul vs lambo in WCS challenger

soul vs reynor in WCS fall eu qualifiers

Masa vs scarlett recently in WCS

Heromarine vs lambo in wcs summer

Soul vs namshar in sc2 royal - soul dominated so hard that he was walking around map with 30 ghosts sniping even Banelings

Maru vs solar gsl code s s3

As for tvp

Maru vs Neeb in WESG this year.

Maru vs classic in code s s1

Maru vs stats in st1

Beastyqt vs mana on ladder ( Terran streamer beats pros maxed out sky toss )

Beastyqt vs harstem in a wcs qualifier this year (same as above)

TY vs hero gsl code s s3.

Edit oh I forgot hero vs cure in code s s3

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Oh please Beastyqt is a pro who retired only very recently.

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He doesn’t practice like a pro anymore and was never as good as harstem and mana are anyway

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He retired in 2016. 3 years ago.

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TVP late game may actually be Terran favored at this point. It’s kind of difficult to be certain, since there’s so few pro games that get to that stage, but using a hit squad of 6 or so BCs can be devastating. Then you just have to force the base race, force them forward into your Turret, Ghost, Liberator, Mine, Bio Ball of crap, then Teleport in behind them.

TVZ… Well, infestors.

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Hahahahahahah mass tempests lol

I missed this on my first read

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