A spell never used once in BW and it will likely never be used in sc2 either.
Nah.
The difference here is that it’s AoE.
It was used to clear Blinds, which was a Terran spell from the same unit, ironically.
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Not true at all. I am one of the biggest supporters of Tactical Jump being removed/nerfed more.
Unless buffs are spread to the three races, i don’t see the need to buff unilateraly only terrans. it will ruin the balance even more.
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Agreed. It was more of a preliminary idea and would otherwise be a bio-based counter to my reworked Microbial Shroud over here (in the mod, Zerg get a Dark Swarm-like Microbial Shroud, Protoss get some Carrier micro potential and Terran can… build Vikings at the Factory… so Decontaminate would make a nice ability to round everything off):
Maybe you can consider narrowing the gap between the paper-DPS and real-world-DPS of Adept/Tempest.
Without altering the paper-DPS that even now is pathetic:
- Plasma-Bolts of both units can survive and hit with the remaining damage the nearest enemy unit in a Range 1.5-2.
How it works:
A Tempest attacks with 40 damage 2 marines of 45HP. First hit causes 40 damage, second hit kills the first marine of 5HP and the remaining Bolt (40-5=35damage) hits the second marine.
Thus the real-DPS would approach the paper-DPS.
Same thing can be applied to Yamoto.
Removing TJ would be a bad call. It should spawn on cooldown, and share a cooldown with Yamato Gun, so the BC player will have to decide which one to use.
This would also be fair, since the BC no longer has Energy, so it should not be able to just Jump out of the Starport, nor should it be able to Jump + Yamato.
So, 10 Tempest (50 supply) attack 25 vikings (50 supply), dealing 300 DMG, killing 2 vikings and damaging third. 25 vikings attack back, dealing 500 DMG, killing one and losing the rest of dmg to overkill.
Tempest are meant to lose dps. They are not army unit. Same as liberator, their dmg is not meant to affect fight but force enemy to do something. In case of lib its walk around its field, in case of tempest its attacking into you. They cant be able to fight vs their counters like you propose, because it would be queen like unit. Good at everything with massive range.
You want to give the medivac the ability to negate vipers and clear the already niche contaminate plays?
Lol no. Not a chance.
Dude stop, you’re so grotesquely biased nobody listens to you.
I also like how you assumed the Vikings did overkill but the tempests smart fired somehow LOL.
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Don’t waste the time with somebody that maintains with a straight face:
Maybe we can use Tempests for mining mineral? With this approach it is meaningless to engage somebody in a normal discussion.
A lot of people recognize that Tempests need some help. Some proposed the hit-scan approach, it’s OK because even hit-scan tends to reduce the DPS loss.
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Myohmind has competition! Let the modding games begin!
I’m thinking that the energy cost should be increased to 75 and the research moved to the Fusion Core (since the Starport Tech Lab is reserved for units that require the Tech Lab now, it seems), so if you use the ability to clear something like Parasitic Bomb or Revelation, it really hurts the Medivac’s healing potential afterwards, so you can’t just spam it.
I’m still in the proposal stage, not saying “this is the next big thing - you are a fool to not accept it!”. If it proves to be an absolutely terrible idea, then of course it won’t progress from there.
pls read… He ASKED for tempest to smart fire… I just said why its stupid.
Also, I play random, Im one of the better informed here about state of balance. You can see me not asking for buffs to Terran or Protoss, but only nerfs to Zerg, as from my own experience, that is by far most powerful race atm.
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Dude stop, you’re so grotesquely biased nobody listens to you.
I also like how you assumed the Vikings did overkill but the tempests smart fired somehow LOL.
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Tempest is obviously meant to be an upgraded Observer.
By “upgraded”, I mean like how Reforged upgraded warcraft 3…
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Thank you for confirming what everyone knew. You cant read.
Today we all learned that the very expensive, fleet beacon-requiring tempest is not an “army unit”. No wonder no one builds one LOL.
Just when you think the internet cannot birth any more stupidity.
Looks like we got a new village idiot, a salty report-happy one lol.
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Thank you everyone for hijacking the topic.
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