The original post I made was flagged and removed by a mod, I deleted the part that was responsible so here it is again! I WILL NOT BE SILENCED.
So because of conflicting claims on the reliability of aligulac, I went ahead and manually counted the # of sub gm players on its last page.
Of the 35 players, there were at least 23 that were not gm level, ranging anywhere from gold league to masters 4.8k. There were 2 gm players.
Next page!
You would expect this to have less, right? Nope, 31 out of 40 players were below gm level, with an even wider range of silver-masters 4.9k. This page also only has 2 gm players, although honourable mention to ‘redacted’ as a masters player with gm mmr.
Next page!
Surprisingly this page also had 23 sub-gm level players, although the range was slightly smaller containing only platinum-masters 4.9k. There were also many more gm players in this page, which is to be expected.
Aligulac’s current period only has 836 players, and just by viewing its last 3 pages we already see huge discrepancies of skill with 77 players confirmed to be worse than gm level, yet their games carry the same weight as that of serral in this site’s winrates. Y’all are free to look at this yourselves, the information is public, and it’s not like pages after the last 3 don’t have sub-gm players, so 77 is actually a generous low estimate.
But if you’re still gonna use aligulac winrates to prove the game is balanced/imbalanced then you’ve got a screw loose or something, there is no way a statistic with at least 77 outliers in a sample size of 836 should be taken seriously.
Seems like someone’s posts have been constantly deleted by mods haha. Don’t be disappointed since you constantly try to troll for more likes / responses. No idea what are you trying to achieve with these numbers.
I think there wasn’t anything wrong with the thread, I’m surprised it got deleted when some spammer insults almost on a daily basis and the posts are still there.
There are certain ppl here that just want to silence others that speak contrary opinions. You and I may disagree on many things but I hope we can at least agree open discourse is better than censored discourse.
Yes, I know that Aligulac is not the perfect and ultimate tool, but its something nice to have and its useful before starting looking at the things more closely (analizing VODs/replays)
I agree with you 100%. Personally i think that the post was junk but in no way shape and form something to be removed.
There are real offenders here that deserve to be IP/HW-banned but Lethe certainly is not one of them.
One can agree and disagree all day with him but the debate always stays in the limits of the mutual respect and decency.
Aww I think I had a solid response to this. I’m just going to keep it shorter. GM ladder is not an accurate reflection of balance state in the game. I wish/hope that the regular whiners could see this. The MMR standard for GM used to be more legit, but anyone at 5k MMR could be in GM nowadays. GM ladder became a joke some time in 2020.