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Oh please. Texas has tons of lakes and forestland. I have family who live on Lewisville lake. Their backyard is literally a lake. He owns 40 acres of forestland that he bought just so he can go deer hunting. Texas is a big place with lots of cheap land. Hunting, fishing, atvs, boating, etc, loads of stuff to do in texas. Go visit the Alamo or the Perot museum. Oh, I forgot to mention the ocean as well as various nasa facilities. You can watch SpaceX launch, they do it quite frequently. Be sure to visit a Buc-ee’s while you are there. That in and of itself is quite the experience. Tons of people offer horseback tours.

One of the things I’ve been wanting to do for awhile is to canoe the rio grande. My father had a canoe and we went all over the place when I was younger. Hit every lake and river we could reach on a 2 day weekend. These are the fun things you can do if you are physically fit, but if you’re not then the only thing you can really do is watch tv and play video games. That’s why the obesity pandemic is a human rights issue, it severely limits the freedoms of the individuals who suffer from the disease. The more the FDA has regulated food in america, the more obesity has shot through the roof. The groups who are doing fine in that respect are the ones decoupled from the federal regulation, like the Amish, and even the Amish are being harassed by the federal government. Some city slicker who weighs 400 pounds and has 3 deadly diseases are the ones writing and enforcing the regulations that are quite literally killing people. Thank god the supreme court got rid of the chevron deference & now the federal agencies can’t bully people into ruining their lives. It will take decades for america to heal from the damage done by the corrupt federal corporatocracy that has ruled america for the past 40 years.

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I was mentioning earlier in the thread that women tend to have a hard time even knowing what their preferences are and that that is a predictor of a feminine temperament. Well I’ve been doing some reading and this part jumped out at me:

… Men express a greater emphasis on the physical attractiveness of potential mates than women do, but interestingly, women’s implicit (i.e., not consciously recognized) preferences for physical attractiveness (as assessed with response time and date requests) are just as strong as that of men (Eastwick et al., 2011).

It’s amazing to be able to come to a conclusion on your own and then be proven right by rigorous research. Anyway the book continues:

Women, who have higher minimal costs in reproduction, invest more in the survival and success of a few offspring and are therefore tuned to physical indicators (signs of status, such as a large jaw and prominent forehead; Rhodes, 2006) that a man can provide resources for the offspring.

The take away here is that women are selecting for men who have high levels of testosterone, because that’s what makes big foreheads & wide jaws. It’s also the reason why judges are more likely to give harsher sentencing to men with masculine faces (i.e. it predicts an aggressive temperament because high testosterone also predicts aggression). So they select for guys who are big and aggressive so that they feel safe. That’s literally what attractiveness boils down to. That’s why so many women end up with the bad boys who abuse them because they are attracted to traits that are correlated with aggressive behavior. It’s absolutely fascinating stuff.

It’s such a trope that it ends up in holywood. We were talking about the male fantasy of discovering hidden power & rising to defeat a foe. Well this is the female trope. They see men as scary, mysterious beasts & want to tame the beast & make them subservient to her. That’s the female fantasy, and it shows up in vampire books, 50 shades of grey, etc. Nothing is hotter to a woman than the idea of taming a “vampire billionaire” and making him subservient to her. He can apply this framework to all sorts of movies. Pretty much every Hallmark love story fits into this category.

It’s also why Holywood’s “girl boss” obsession has caused them to lose billions. On a very fundamental level, they don’t understand their customers & what their customers want. Women are interested in romance, sometimes sci fi romance, and men are interested in action & thrillers. Old men are interested in historical fiction. So the girl-boss category fits into none of these categories.

I went to a rocket launch in Texas and was denied a seat on the aircraft. Biggest scam ever. They asked me if I was a rocket scientist… Do I need to be a mechanic to drive a car?

Yes, or you will be blowing your clutch thousands of miles early. I knew a chick who killed a brand new car by adding the wrong antifreeze to the engine. The old antifreeze (ethylene glycol) will react with the new stuff & it produces a solid which deposits inside the tiny water passageways of the engine. Mechanics make billions of dollars a year because their consumers in the auto industry are certifiable morons. It’s not uncommon for example for a mechanic to have a car towed in & they discover the owner put the antifreeze into the oil or visa versa.

Took me 10 seconds to find an example, lmao:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/L43PG78zrnw

Maybe, just maybe, if you are going to modify a 10 or 20 thousand dollar engine, you should probably buy & read the manual & double check to make sure you are going to do it right. Nah bro I will just pour some in right here at the gas station. Piece of cake!

So if the guy in this video did his own oil change, but put the oil into the radiator, that means he ran his engine without oil long enough for the oil & water to become emulsified & produce that pasty white mess. He probably knocked 50,000 miles off the life of his engine with one trip to the grocery store.

On older car’s it harder because nothing is labelled, there are no manuals or diagrams, and it’s common for there to be custom setups that diverge from what you’d expect. So you have to have a good understanding of what’s going on or you’re going to mess up. So if you can’t instinctively recognize each of the engine parts, don’t go doing anything to a vintage car.

On some modern cars, they come with “oil for life”. You never have to change the engine’s oil. Obviously that’s a lie but they removed the oil filter & drain plug. So now you have to get a vacuum pump and a special stainless steel cylinder to suck the crap out and you pour it back in via the valve covers. Crazy stuff, dude. Modern cars are going backwards, not forwards.

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Yes, it’s true 4.8 k MMR is higher than 99.9 % players of the game but it’s not progaming level. Progaming threshold in SC2 starts, depending on server at 6.0-6.2 k MMR and you are nowhere near that.

Haha sure kid :rofl: . Do you even know how 8% bodyfat looks like ? You are literally shredded to the point that your blood vessels and veins are visible from a mile away. 5% bodyfat is considered essential fat (fat necessary for human body to survive). If i remember correctly you showed your picture with abs few years ago (face was covered) and on that picture you were FAR from 8% body fat, maybe 12-15% at best.

What’s next ? You can bench press 450 lbs, you could compete at Mr. Olympia “if you only wanted” have black belt in karate/judo/aikido and won USA national tournament in boxing/kickboxing ?

Oooh, so now we have a millionaire in SC2 community. You forgot to add you have 3 luxurious cars in your garage, two mansions and a yacht worth 100 million dollars.

So to summarize:

  • you are SC2 progamer, super shredded with bodybuilding physique, can write tens of thousands algorithms on demand, very rich and you have tons of friends and women.

And you call me DELUSIONAL :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

https://i.imgur.com/UN8I1Hr.jpeg

ABS really is living in another dimension. Gotta wonder what mushrooms he ate for breakfast. Did you get them from the store, or find them on the side of the road? That’s without a gym pump, by the way, it’s chilling in a hotel with the AC cranked up to max.

What do you think of my ride, ABS? I call it the “babe mobile” because I can’t drive anywhere without a chick coming up to talk to me. https://i.imgur.com/0Q0TrAh.jpeg

It’s got a 5.9 liter v8 with a wide duration roller cam in it. You can hear it coming from a mile away. You could say subtlety is not my strength. :rofl:. I actually did a study on engines awhile back. Granted it was only GM engines but it’s probably true for all engine types. I data mined info on every engine and its specs then asked my program to find an equation to predict the horsepower. Guess what was the #1 predictor for horsepower. You’d think it’s displacement but no, it’s the timing of the exhaust valve. Crazy.

So anyway, when working on this car I built some scaffolding to hold the car in the air. I am working on it & this old dude is driving past, stops & we start talking about it. He’s apparently a pontiac enthusiast and he’s an engineer who designed water-to-air missiles for the navy. So he’s like “Yeah, I got a bunch of parts, heads, cams, etc, just lying around in my garage, you can have anything you want.” So I am over there on occasion talking to this old man in exchange for free car parts.

This is the funniest part about this car. I have a ton of stories I could tell. Well this car can be spotted from outer space. Literally. You can find it on google maps. It’s the funniest stuff ever. The paint job I did myself, and it’s so flipping good you can spot it from out space.

Because literally everything that you post is a complete inversion of reality. I am just calling a spade a spade. If you make a concerted effort to post the most ridiculous lies imaginable, don’t get mad when people notice & call it what it is: delusional.

Bro you’re autistic af. Im ROFLing right now. You got me good laugh.

I wish i could post my photo too. I also have visible veins on my arms. Am i 8 % bodyfat :smiley:
Nice car bro. Do you have pics of other cars of your neighbors ? :slight_smile:

I saw your stream bro. You are 5k and you lost to Yeast (4.5 k player) on Goldenaura. But you’re a progamer and i’m delusional. Good night. Have sweetest of dreams.

Really? Your arms have veins that bulge like this: https://i.imgur.com/srLxHcg.png. Ok, let see it, abs. Your turn to share a photo.

Average verbal iq for someone with autism is 70. At <=90 they can’t understand recursion. That means they couldn’t understand A*. Once again, your insults are simply detached from reality. Your attempts at insults can’t be considered insults because they are just too unrealistic. It’s like accusing someone of being the king of the Illuminati. It sounds good in your head by everyone else is like “What.”

Livibee is a pro player and is as low as 4400 at times. You form associations between things that have nothing to do with one another. Your mmr value has nothing to do whether you are pro or not. There are guys with 6300 mmr who aren’t pro and chicks with 4400 who are. You’re living in another dimension, man. In fact I just checked. SoS has 6500 mmr and he’s not a pro. So, yeah. MMR value != pro level status. Also, I have very specifically said that I am not pro and will never go pro. I’ve said that a million times, you’re just lying at this point.

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That is blatantly false.
I peaked at 3.7 k MMR. Can i be a pro player please ? As the name suggests pro is a player for whom playing given video game is a PROFESSION - that is - he is practicing and playing to the best of his ability to make for his living. Livibee is nowhere near pro level today (she used to be semi-pro around 2013-2014) but today she is literally a scrub. Just because someone USED to be a pro years ago doesn’t mean they are pro now. BeastyQT was 6k MMR prior to his switch to AOE4 and he did not call himself “pro player”.

What about Yeast ? Is he progamer too ? I mentioned him because you boast how good you are at SC2, yet you lose to someone 500 MMR below you and barely beat players around 4.2-4.3 k MMR (i watched your stream). Pretty embarrassing for someone with a claim that “he could be progamer if he only wanted”.

Good news for you my friend. Delusion can be treated :slight_smile:

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Livibee is the literal definition of a pro player. She plays sc2 professionally & relies on it to make money. It’s simply a fact. I also checked, she has an account at 4300 mmr. So yeah, mmr value means nothing. She has even competed in tournaments like MLG. You don’t have to be good at SC to be a professional. This is true for all industries. To be a professional you simply have to do it as your profession, you don’t have to be good at it.

You know for a fact that I play impossible strategies specifically for the entertainment value. Anytime I play Livibee, I beat her without making anti air even though she masses mutalisks. If you don’t know how flipping hard it is to do that, that means you know nothing about sc2. I had pro players in my chat saying “holy !@#$, it’s amazing you won that game” and “that’s genius”. I am still 5k mmr despite the impossible strategies. 5k is an outstanding result without the impossible strategies. You are just way too jealous to be honest. You’re so jealous you’re willing to project bronze-league understanding of game strategy in order to deny how insane it is to get gm with meme builds. You’re also willing to lie about the definition of “professional” to somehow mean “only people with mmr values above Adventurer can be professional” lmao. It’s such a totally arbitrary cut off point but we both know why you pick it. It’s because you’re so insanely jealous you’d rather have psychotic break than admit the plain and obvious truth.

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Jealous of what ? That i’m not 5k ??? I am literally PROUD that i never got this far ? You know why ?

I’ll tell you a greatest secret of SC2:
You know what MMR range is the worst in SC2 ?
4800-5500. The reason behing this argument is because 5k MMR is very hard to get and maintain (i agree with you that it is an accomplishment to brag about) but this is too low to be progamer. In other words - you’re too good for ladder, too bad for progaming. You have wasted years and precious hours of your life playing this game…to get nothing. NOTHING. In SC2 there is one rule: - you are casual or progamer, there is no value in between. Either you play completely casually for fun and your own pleasure (bronze to diamond) or you work your s off to get to top GM to become progamer. It’s that simple. If you never planned to become progamer you could have stayed in gold or diamond and you’d be absolutely fine.

Ah yes, the “it takes work to be good at SC” theory. That theory is definitely wrong. I once took a 6 month break from the game following a hand injury. Upon returning, I beat a grandmaster on the second game. I hadn’t practiced in months. I had no experience on that map pool or that balance patch.

SC2 has been a point of interest for researchers for some time. This includes artificial intelligence, aka people who are trying to figure out how to mimic intelligence, and neuro scientists who are trying to figure out what makes people smart. SC2 has a number of very hard tasks in it, and so researchers are curious if people learn skills to deal with these hard tasks or if the hard tasks select for traits that make people better at handling the hard tasks. So it’s a bit of a chicken and egg scenario. Recent research shows it’s a little of both. Playing SC2 increases your score on certain cognitive tests, notably the stop signal delay, but only up to a point. So most people can benefit from playing sc2 but the majority of the performance difference on the ladder is trait based. There’s 5 or 10 traits that you either have or you don’t – you have good eyesight, or you don’t, for example. And it’s going to be a person with all these traits who gets into grandmaster. It’s the same way that the Olympics selects for athletes with good athletic genes. It’s the same process. While everyone can benefit from exercise, only the elite athletes, who won the genetic lottery & were born to throw javelins, will compete in the Olympics.

One of the interesting coincidences I ran into was researching a genetic mutation that confers HIV resistance. It deletes a receptor on certain cells & this changes how those cells react to certain immune signals. Interestingly, the brain has these receptors & that means the mutation can impact the brain, and it does. This effect is so strong, researchers are even investigating it as potentially being part of what causes neurodegenerative diseases like Alzheimer. This is true even in mice. They can give mice this mutation & they will perform better on memory related tasks for example. So the interesting coincidence is that the incidence of this mutation is somewhere around 0.5% in the general population. That sounds an awful lot like the proportion of GM players. So my theory is that this trait is helpful in sc2 performance & it’s probably one of the defining traits of grandmaster. And that’s not to say grandmasters are “smarter” people – it’s to say they have traits that make them uniquely good at the challenges of this video game, in the same way a tall person has traits that make it easier to reach apples on a tree but make it harder to pick up a heavy box.

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Deep in your heart you agree with me but you refuse to admit it publicly:

You regret to play this game for so many years to not get any significant reward for your hard work.
Guess what reward do you receive when getting promoted from one league to another ? A badge !!! An effing badge ! Isn’t that pathetic ? If reward for promotion was significant like some skins/ voice packs/maybe some mission packs, items like in other games etc. it would be worth to work hard, but in SC2 you get absolutely nothing. That’s why attempting to get better at SC2 while you’re not planning to become pro is waste of time and you know it. After years you will regret all that wasted time.

Gaming is specifically catered towards instant gratification and feedback. That’s why it has shiny badges and promotion screens. You consider it hard work to go to the top of the ladder but it’s just an instance of continuous improvement and wanting to do better. Seems boring to stay in pleb league with people that aren’t using half the units at their disposal and the one’s that do are barely using them correctly.

Nah the game is super easy and boring to the point I have to limit how frequently I play, I have to play the hardest race, I have to win using alternate win cons, I don’t allow myself to watch replays or optimize build orders, and I have to play at a time of day when stronger opponents are on the ladder. The Great Apes of Grandmaster in North America simply don’t provide enough of a challenge. Even the strongest players on NA are strong only because they spam the most abusive strat to ever exist, the same build they’ve done on repeat for years, aka 10’s of 1000’s of games, but they cap out at 5700. It’s these same players who lose their flipping minds if the map design style deviates even slightly from what they are used too. “Rocks are OP ReeeRreeeeReeeeeReEEeEeEEeE”. If they had to win the game via strategy, they’d be diamond league. The players themselves are quite weak, in other words, they are simply copying strong strats from maru and clem and collecting their free wins. They don’t actually understand the game except X leads to Y and Y wins the game. It’s like following road signs or a baking recipe. It’s not hard at all if you can get past the mouse/keyboard requirements to have high APM. So SC2 is a very easy game, but it’s the hardest one out there, and for that it’s the best option. I am not going to go play call of duty or destiny or whatever. They couldn’t hold my interest for more than a couple hours. So, no, my time spent playing sc2 isn’t wasted. I tend to burn through hobbies because I master them too quickly. SC2 has held my interest, it’s had its ups and downs, for over a decade. No other hobby has been able to do that, ever.

As for the community, I’ve met some really interesting people over the years & argued with them a great deal on a wide range of topics. Strategy games like SC2 tend to pull in more intelligent people than games like Call of Duty. That’s because COD takes literally zero brain cells to play, and that means a smart person will be as good at it as a dumb person. But a smart person knows that it’s better to play a game that rewards intelligence because that’s an advantage he has & which he can exploit to leverage for a different outcome. That and it’s more interesting game because it’s more complicated. So you get doctors and lawyers and millionaire businessmen and scientists playing SC2. Idra is a good example. Dude got his PhD and became a material scientist. He published a book not too long ago: “Boxed in by Good Intentions—Working in Silos”. It’s a book about how over-specialization prevents finding solutions to broader problems. LiquidSheth became a lawyer. So on and so forth. I also suspect a writer for HBO browses here because I once posted an analysis of Donald Trump & shortly thereafter it ended up on an HBO talk show almost word for word. The internet is a small world. You meet some really interesting people in places like this.

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Actually i was waiting for your response because i know you’re 5.1k, so tell me: was it all worth your time and effort ? If i was 5.1k i would strive to get to 6k. This way you can actually enter some minor or even major tournaments and you actually have some change of winning some prizes. Seriously i still support my opinion that 5k - 5.5k is the worst because you get middle finger from Blizzard for working so hard and not getting any satisfying reward. A badge ! At least they should give every GM some unique skin set or maybe portrait, whatever.

That’s all ? You call this a reward ??? After all those years of bashing keyboard/ tens of thousands of games, practing builds etc. you get some stupid animation lasting few seconds. You’d expect something more than that.

I don’t care what Batz says because he is delusional about “game being too easy” etc, meanwhile he cannot get past 5k with troll strats.

Lmaooo. 6k has a 0.0% chance of winning any significant amount of money and there is a 100% chance you’d net more per hour by simply bagging groceries at walmart. Unless you can place top 4 in major tournaments, you’re wasting your time by going pro. It’s simply reality.

You’ve got it backwards, dude. It takes zero effort to achieve GM, but it takes ludicrous effort to win tournament money. So the people in tournaments are the ones getting cheated out of their time. If you worked part time at walmart and played 4 hours of sc2 you’d net more money than everyone except the top 10 or top 20 players worldwide. Uthermal for example has won 174k. That’s great except he’s been competing for somewhere in the ballpark of 12 years. 174/12=14.5k which is the definition of poverty wages. You could make that working part time at walmart. If you want money, just go work at walmart and play sc2 for fun. And I 100% guarantee these guys are spending way more than 40 hours a week on sc2, too. If you scaled for hourly wages, they’re probably making 2 bucks an hour or something in that ballpark. SC2 pro play is the definition of a waste of time.

Dude legit can’t understand that for some people sc2 is easy. Lmao.

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As batz said but also the people playing at 6k mmr have to wait 6 minutes to get a 1v1 game and most of the time it’s not an even skill level which further perpetuates the ladder being dead. It’s a bigger issue currently because of the life stage of SC2 but also once you’re there you have to play super meta otherwise you lose 100 MMR per game and have to earn it back with 6-8 points per game. It happened to Parting with him playing his cannon rushes etc and after every loss it just made it that much worse causing him to rank up a new account everytime he got bored.

It doesn’t take that long and the practice isn’t as intense as you think it is. 99.9% of the ladder see a pro build, emulate the basic concepts and go from there. People watch Pig put down all these things on a notepad to flesh out a build and people think that’s what it takes to get good but really that’s just to convince others to get coaching from him.

You’re also disregarding how rewarding it is for a ADHD brain. David Kim has specifically catered his new RTS for these attributes and people like Pig say it’s incredibly addicting. Try bagging groceries for 8 hours and see at what hour you get bored out of your mind.

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Yep every game has to be “DEFCON-1” levels of effort because you face tons of 5k opponents who can easily take 100 points from you in a single game. I do it all the time vs terran and zerg 6k players.

Being a store clerk provides an opportunity to talk to a lot of people. There is a famous one where I live, a 'nam veteran, called Paul. I once wore a t-shirt that had a cat sitting in a box with the text “Great things come in tiny packages” to which he said “Is that referring to your manhood?” :rofl: :1st_place_medal:

I don’t think that SC2 brings in ADHD people. ADHD people tend not to get caught up on the details, they make mistakes & don’t even notice. They rarely spend time indoors because they are always on the go. To be good at sc2, you have to be obsessed with perfecting build orders & micro & mechanics. You also have to be indoors a lot & have a lot of patience to play out boring games that are going to take 15 minutes to resolve. Those are all severe challenges for a person with ADHD. People with ADHD also tend to not care about insults, mainly because they don’t think about it very much. They might not even realize they were insulted to be honest.

No, I think the pathology of SC2 is type C disorders, e.g. OCD and other dependent disorders. They get a dopamine hit from seeing a victory screen because they are desperate for affirmation. They are obsessed with perfecting things. They have infinite patience for the most ridiculous BS, and, lets be honest here, SC2 is about throwing BS at your opponent. They are also extremely sensitive & rage prone, which is a manifestation of how their brain treats itself when they make mistakes, which is why they are obsessed with perfection. They tend to never go outdoors. They prefer interacting with things that have a low commitment and low risk, they like keeping their options open, so they sit at home all day, tinkering with SC2 builds while telling themselves they can always try going outside tomorrow.

Oh another trait that is common in type C is rumination. They tend to overthink things and especially they sit and brood about the mistakes they make. That sounds exactly like a loner sc2 nerd beating himself up over a mistake in a build order. Now imagine being such a nerd and some guy with a particular hair cut tells you ez pz. You can imagine how that unfolds, lmao.

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Correct !
For SOME people, not all and not even minority. Literally for bunch of losers chained to their computers playing 24/7.

Ok suppose i believe you and getting 6k isn’t worth your time either, so what was the point getting 5k ? Wasn’t that a waste of time either and bigger one ? If you never planned to become pro you should stay in gold. Look at me i was 3.7 diamond 2 and this is actually casual with some practice.

Getting GM easy ? :smiley:
Yeah maybe in 2012 but not today bro.