Then you also submit that you are not arguing and are only whining, for you are not interested in convincing someone about your viewpoint.
I offer my commiserations that you feel your preferred race is the hardest and you have my sympathies that, indeed, starcraft is a game that is difficult to play at high levels.
Literally this is what we are arguing about⌠Do you not pay attention when YOU speak? We are literally arguing over what consensus we can reach and the best insult you can muster is âyou care about what consensus we can reach.â
Jesus what IS your IQ? Iâd honestly be shocked if youâre north of 115 talking like this.
Eliwan, I donât know if youâve picked up on this sweetie, but I havenât really been paying attention to anything youâve said. I think thatâs why you keep jumping in and trying to get me to pay attention to you? You seem like those one of a million pick me girls with daddy issues thatâs always clamoring to get me to notice them. Just relax, sweetie, Iâll get around to you at some point.
Yeah but what i meant is that i shall say something like âits harder above m2â without any concrete context or evidence. same with lower avg mmr. you have no concrete evidence why lower avg mmr should mean that a race is harder, considering you have a very biased race selection and you cannot show me any metric where terran outperforms the other races in terms of activity or whatnot and still not getting results.
This is what i mean. you just want to make me say âterran is harder above m2â just for the sake of it. just out of thin airâŚmaybe because you struggled so hard when you were active and you want to feel better about yourself?
i dont think this is a general discussion for you. i think its something very personal and emotional. we need to say: hey bourne, you are super good for reaching m2! gj!
So let me say: Bourne. Im glad you reached m2. GJ!
You are apparently unaware of this, but openly admitting that youre a pig who has been ignoring all the points raised against you is a really quick and easy way to lose a debate.
Although its good to at least see you concede you have nothing of value to say.
You are tehbatz a.k.a slammer a.k.a bowlcut a.k.a maskedwords a.k.a KhabiraMinh a.k.a Adventurer and possibly lots of other alt accounts. Do you even realize how easy it is to spot your alt just by reading your comments ?
For protoss yes, it is mainly a skill issue, however it is debatable as it might as well be race design. But not for terrans, seeing Maru or Clem getting blasted 3:0 and 4:0 is not a skill issue, itâs called imbalance. Zerg was imbalanced the whole entirety of LOTV just because one unit was never nerfed:
THE QUEEN.
Dudeâs legit living in another universe. Have you been tested for a âcluster aâ disorder?
PhD K. here with another thought-provoking thesis! Do you think itâs problematic that Protoss dominate the upper leagues of SC2? Well then youâre a âpigâ! What an amazing and compelling theory from THE Professor of Logic himself.
Whatâs amazing is that people can postulate totally insane theories â theories that have no basis in reality whatsoever and which canât be distinguished from Illuminati and flat-earth nonsense â and they actually expect you to take them seriously enough that you read their theories. Protoss dominates so flipping hard that youâd have to be blind to deny it and Eiliwan accused me of saying âyouâre saying something thatâs complete nonsense and pointlessâ. Thatâs the moment I stopped caring what he thinks. The dude is living in another dimension where up is down, black is white, water isnât wet and Protoss isnât overpowered.
Iâve posted:
Still no apology nor a retraction of that statement from Eilewan for saying itâs âcomplete nonsense and pointlessâ and a variety of other absurd allegations.
Then just say that you understand the inner workings of the game better than the pros.
Literally what other measure would you use if not MMR/game?
Iâm trying to hammer down at what point you even think Terran is more difficult, youâre very vague about it and I highly suspect that the reality is, that you donât think it is at any MMR level, which would mean âI know more about this game than the people who play it professionally.â
My highest was M1 back when I pushed the ladder. 4.9.
You only call me a âpigâ because you lack the power that I have. Itâs the same thing when a bunch of poor people talk endless smack about the rich. You wish you could do it, but you canât, so you make a moral judgment from a position of weakness.
Power? Excuse me? I donât really give a crap about your imagined power, youâre just being awful and Iâm calling you on it. What are you going to do about it?
Youâre like the guy whoâs always saying âI would never cheat on my girlfriend.â Knowing full well he never could. Itâs good not to cheat on your wife, but only if youâre a man with a great number of options. Morality is useless without strength.
This is Not the Point. Read again.
Dude. Im sorry. I cant anymore. Please Note that this is Not a labtest. You dont have a controlled environment. You cannot simply Look at 1 Metric and call it a day. You realize how in the science world Experiments will be dismissed Instantly If you can Figure Out a systematic flaw? Well OK maybe they do a second study to reproduce the Findings. Do you know how many studies cant be reproduced because of the bias of Humans ? And you are coming Here telling me all we have to do is to look at AVG mmr and call it a day. Meanwhile 1 Race IS extremly familiar to us and has 35/36% Population and 1 Race that is least familiar has 26% Population. And you Just dont Care that this is a huge issue.
But Back to your Question. There is no â1 Metricâ. What i did was to Look If the mmr of high Level Players and Low Level Players was the Same for every Race. Because why should the unequal distribution of Player preference have an influence on high Level Play? And its pretty cool to See that the Perform the Same. Also a Big Point is the Higher ladder. In Diamond and Masters we have near equal representation of all races. If we Look at pro Play every Race has a Chance to win and we can See that there arent completly lopsided mechanics or Interactions. Or that 1 Race has to Work so much Harder.
You See⌠Its rather about all Kinds of Things we can See. Also it would be pretty weird to make General Statements Like XYZ is Harder. If you mean globally. For example its a huge difference in difficulty If you Play completly macro orientated or If you cheese/Timing Attacks and so on.
Lastly as a Not so valid Point: i have been Masters 2 with every Race and with multiple Styles. Personally my Level of difficulty would be macro protoss>macro terran> macro zerg.
But i think i feel that way because of my very high apm. Meaning i am pretty much capable to do all These Things that are pretty much required to do. And i experience that i often have ânothingâ to do with protoss and im Just hoping Not to die wheras with terran or zerg you can do so many Things. But again its Just Personal. Protoss is much more Strategic but much less mechanic and because the other races are more mechanical i experience Them to be easier since there are Always Things i can Work on despite my already good mechanics (Note that im Not actually very active and i can be much much much better at the Game If i Had the mindset to practise. And i genuinly think i would easily surpass my protoss with terran or zerg. They are already at the Same rank more or less)
Nope. I actually Said the difficulty of t is in my eyes to abuse mmm to the max. And this is a high Level topic. And what other than high Level would pros mean in their Interviews ? They are Pros. They dont Care about noobs Like you and me.
There was a funny Situation in hsc:
The German caster got a co caster to Cast with. And they Had the Balance discussion. And the co caster Said Something Like âim 3600 mmr but im terran so im actually better than the 3700 mmr tossâ. He got completly laughed at by the Main caster who Said Something Like bro this doesnt Matter on this Level at all. And the Main caster is a terran Main and known for also crying about how much Harder terran is.
I am so proud of you! Gj!
I told Special that Zerg is the weakest race currently and he giggled at me then spent the next few years lifting weights. I never knew how motivational I was before that exchange.
Obviously. You need to be the bug if you want to play the bug.
Protoss players are the most handsome and are jacked. They dont cry all day and just put the work in. Day in and day out. Protoss is the strongest race.
Yikes. This kinda stuff is why I watch tournaments on mute. Mathematical illiteracy on flagrant display, pompously strutting around like a peacock during a mating ritual. The thing that blows me away is that someone will get up in front of thousands of people and say stupid stuff like that. They say competence is inversely correlated with confidence and boy is that true.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVWbxFZZTvY&t=6s
But worse even still is the false sense of moral superiority. I, the superior, will not balance whine because it doesnât affect my skill level! I may be bad at starcraft, but at least I have a superior mindset! Yawn. Vulnerable narcissism is just too cliche because itâs everywhere in modern society. Canât say what they really think because they think too good of themselves to be unlike the unclean balance whiner. Legit insane. People keep themselves shacked because they are too afraid of being judged but what they fail to realize is that people will always judge you no matter how perfect you are. Welcome to reality. The only person you should care about is yourself. If you like it then say it. The rest of the people can kiss your butt if they disagree. Good on that Terran playing for calling balance what it really is: protoss favored.
Do you know that slammer guy? He needs to hit the gym. ASAP. Also why is he wearing suits all the time? Is he trying to look special? Accomplished even? Also hes always talking trash but its not even funny. That guy should get a clue.
Exactly. He told everyone âlook at me im playing the hard race! I would be soooo much better when i play the other racesâ 
thats hilarious.
I mean, i do that too. But im backing this up 
Like for example that wheasypeasy guy who challenged me to get 4.5k terran and he got stomped and cried in denial that i could never achieve that realistically, but i did. Meanwhile he never showed he could go +200 mmr easily on protoss or zerg like he claimed. Funny whiners here on this forum. Same with bourne.
That was a hard lesson for me after getting flamed by both Batz and Playa in game.
https://i.imgur.com/TQrMFGj.png
Photo picked specifically so nobody can claim it was staged with perfect lighting. You dorito boys wouldnât know the first thing about being jacked. The way you get the curvy arms is by developing the brachialis. You do it with a curvy curl bar on narrow grip. Body fat is so low people think you are a heavy smoker or do m*th or are anorexic. I eat twice as much as most people for the same body weight. Thatâs the power of 6 workouts a week and a keto diet with unlimited caffeine consumption. Oh and thatâs workouts at Goldâs Gym & not sports activities aka rock climbing and hiking etc throughout the week.
I had berry and his chat busting a gut on my one of my new smurfs. The dude was so distracted he forgot to load his units into a nydus & lost because of it. 
Nah its by turning into a spaghetti-noodle
Nah dont worry. I enjoy your streams Slammer needs bigger hammer tho
Do you know how I watch my body fat percentage? I wear rings on my right hand that I bought undersized specifically so theyâd be uncomfortable to wear if I gain weight. Thatâs why I am always fidgeting with them. I checking my body weight every time I do. I have OCD and itâs one of my compulsions. I absolutely hate the way fat feels on my body. The way it jig gles and sags and rubs against your shirt. Gotta check the rings on my fingers 20 times a day just to reassure myself that that I am skinny. Just look at my hands and you can tell right there the body fat percentile. You know, bourne used to call me a fatty believe it or not. He was legit delusional. Dude had no clue what he was talking about on the subject of bodybuilding lmao.
Get your vitamins, get your minerals, get your fats and your proteins, but stay the heck away from carbs. Youâll thank me later. Nut butter, whey protein, cottage cheese, egg whites, avocados, cheese, olives. Itâs called fine cooking.
I even started brewing my own wine to keep it low carb. Every bottle fermented until no sugars remain & sweetened with sucralose. The last batch was cranberry orange. Before the pineapple raspberry, and before that it was strawberry. So on and so fort. People have been raving about it at my wine tastings. Nothing is more satisfying than a surprised âOoh, thatâs really good!â Might start doing cheese as well given how much cheese I eat. Itâs not a big stretch because I do kefir protein shakes for breakfast. The bacteria eat all the carbs & leave behind whey protein. You mix it with 2 scoops vanilla protein blend, add cinnamon and nutmeg, and top it off with whip cream. People have been brain washed into eating garbage. This tastes amazing & doesnât kill you. Huh. How about that.
For dinner, well you have a lamb and cheese stew. What else is there to eat that tastes amazing and builds testosterone. I allow myself to go out to eat once a week. I splurge then. I get the country fried steak with shredded hash browns & 2 easy over eggs or a pastrami reuben. I am telling you, I am living the dream.