When Blizzard said co-op is non-canon, the intention was to give designers a degree of flexibility so they can design commanders without having to be completely tied down to Starcraft lore. This does not mean open season where basically anyone can become a commander.
Narud as a new coop commander?
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I would like to bring up that in the “Commander Dialogues” that have been there since launch (which were the remnants of a system they scrapped where commanders would have special dialogue at the start of a match), you can find blank text slots referencing Narud, as well as a lot of others who have either since come out (Stukov, Tychus, Arcturus, and this in the case of the latter two when they had the “no dead commanders” rule) or not come out (Tassadar, Selendis, Overmind). Even though the team has changed since then, it does show they’ve at least considered him and that he’s likely on the table.
I’m probably the most anal person when it comes to canon (when are Artanis’s tempests getting either Khalai quotes or a Purifier portrait, and Zeratul’s enforcers getting annihilator quotes), but I’d have no problem with Narud as a commander. The mode isn’t canon, and I just want to play as the armies of some of my favorite StarCraft characters, so long as the flavor of the army itself is good and is internally consistent to the character. Hybrid forces to me sounds like a fantasy with a lot of potential.
If you need an explanation, just consider that Duran sees that his invincible leader is getting pushed back by the forces of the sector and the plan is falling apart. In an effort to save himself, he does the thing Duran is good at: switches sides. After all, he is a xel’naga, aside from his own loyalty there isn’t anything intrinsically bonding him to Amon, he’s serving on his own free will. So he seizes control of a pocket of hybrids and maybe his personal Moebius/Tal’darim forces and turns on his master.
Granted it’s not perfect, but honestly at this point they don’t need to explain it beyond a basic “he turned on Amon,” no more then they need to explain two Emperors or how Zeratul being back doesn’t completely change the course of the End War. They’ve long said Co-op isn’t canon, and even since launch reading into things like Temple of the Past break down on the slightest bit of canon scrutiny.
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Just killed a bunch of Hybrids. Oh wait, they’re yours? Sorry.
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I would love to have a commander featuring hybrids. Honesty it is more refreshing than the any concept commander’s roster I’ve seen.
Frankly, I’ve seen many over the years lol.
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There may be some better options for a player-controlled hybrid army. Reigel was a member of the Moebius Foundation so he could lead a splinter faction that remained loyal to humanity. The other option is Ulrezaj’s hybrid program which was independent of the Moebius efforts. Imagine an army of hybrids supported by Nerazim assassins and led by a powerhouse Dark Archon.
If we are talking about a Hybrid commander, I would say Valerian is my pick. And that will only be one of the many features for this version of him.
While bringing characters like Reigel and Ulrezaj into Co-op would be nice. Be more ambitious, try to use some more new concepts on them might be better.
Lastly, back to the topic of this thread- no, I still can’t support a Narud commander by any means. Especially by doing so a great opportunity of adding a new enemy besides Amon, Infested, and a Tal’darim A.I. will be wasted.
Btw… no matter what happens, if a Hybrid commander has been made into the game, I have to say I can’t wait to have at least a week that my hybrids can nuke Amon into the abyss, well, before they patch it. Just joking.
I dunno, I’m kinda looking forward for Valerian to use Archangels, Gorgons and Xanthos.
As for Hybrid commanders… we will see what Blizzard boys will serve
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I think that can be used for Warfield. Valerian I think would fit better with Umojan tech, so a hi-tech commander with units that try to replicate Protoss technology or comething like that (since Umojans want make contact with Protoss)
btw, I don’t exclude the possibility of having Duran as commander. Is really possible. I just find it… odd. I will not really like the idea, but I will buy him anyway, because I just love this mode.
I’m looking forward for Valerian to use Dominion, Umojan, and Mobius tech instead. Besides, the personalty from him (being a pacifist) might prove interesting when mixed with Hybrid tactics.
While I strongly oppose the idea of a Narud commander, I somehow believe Duran commander can be possible.
emh… Narud and Duran are the same person…
I think Valerian will be only focused about Umojans since Umojans, Tyrador and Golden Age are the only skinset unused until now (the Cerberus I suppose can be considered used by Mengsk, even if I admit i would like to see a commander just focused about Cerberus)
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emh… I played Moebius Factor before, just saying.
The reason for me making such a ridiculous statement is that the difference from both character’s current situation during their time, despite being the same person, can be used to bring one of them into Co-op when the so-called “alternative timeline” kicks in.
As for Valerian, since I hugely support the concept of him being a diplomatic commander, I would like him to have full access of most of the faction’s technology rather than just one.
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but even with alternative timeline, the characters make sense to go against Amon. Duran, if you pick them when he was Duran or Narud, will not. I’m not saying he will never be a commander, becuse is possible, I just say will be dumb.
A lot of that concept can be picked for others characters, instead of making a huge mix, focusing in just one faction will be a lot more interesting, so Valerian with Umojan will make totally sense, even because is the only character with connection with them. For a “regular” Dominion character can be used Warfield and for the Moebius can be used Reigel.
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That “sense” should be defined by Blizzard and that only.
And that is somehow the only way I can tolerate a Narud commander. Because I just can’t say “Narud commander is a NO” forever.
Personal Preference.
Tbh Mengsk is basically that “regular” Dominion character. Technically you can say the intended sky terran style that can be implied on Warfield can be described as another “regular” Dominion aspect… but what’s the fun in that if Selendis is, and will be a sky comp focused commander?
No plans for this character but I think I can come up with other ideas.
Mengsk is not the regular Dominion commander, he use the Elite guard, the regular Dominion is still unused.
For Reigel the only logical choise would be Moebius (if he will be used, but I doubt since the Moebius is basically the Terran enemy in Co-Op)
Perhaps at this point, it will be best if you define what’s your “regular” Dominion represents. As mine (my “regular” Dominion) is aimed toward the playstyle.
I would say it is questionable for Blizzard to add him to Co-op.
Unless he will have a role in SC3, unless.
And, based on what we’ve seen from the covert ops mission pack ending, even Reigel uses Moebius tech, I think it will be different. Thus we cant get a true Moebius commander from Co-op.
I mean a commander that command the Dominion Armada. Mengsk command his Elite Guard, so is not the Dominion Armada.
I hope we will not have SC3, SC story is concluded with SC2 and the death of Amon, I can agree with others mission packs that focus on others characters ecc… but a new whole game no. After a fallen God as a villain, any other thing would be… dumb… UED can be strong, yhea, but now Daelaam, Dominion and the Swarm are pratically allied, and if them defeated Amon togheter, the UED will be nothing too serious after him. Niadra same thing, or Ulrezaj, or anything else.
After a villain like Amon, any other will be dumb.
I would say a good SC3 needs proper execution and story. Is doable, but not for the current Blizzard.
I’m not familiar with the extended storylines. Perhaps we could find someone similar to Narud’s stature, but would make sense for him/her to go against Amon.
I see a lot of people reiterating that coop isn’t canon so why restrict the missions to “Amon is doing blabbity blah and we have to stop him”?
Would be nice to do stuff like invade Korhal or do a “Caverns of Time” style mission series where you either replay or get to intervene in the events of BW missions like Eye of the Storm, New Gettysburg or Omega… which could of course accompany what some here have mentioned about BW-killed characters being a possibility to be introduced. In fact, I could see Duran fitting in well with that kind of mission. Just a thought.
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Am working on this but have no idea what special mechanic should he have.