Lowko gets promoted with Skytoss

[DeusMetallum-1153]

Lowko talks about about how Skytoss is overpowered unless you are Top tier GM or Pro. So he switches from Zerg to Protoss, and ends up in GM1 himself! Pretty funny!

Lowko's SKY TOSS Promotion! (Twitch Highlights #54)

[PaInLeSs-1413]

To be fair, it is well established that protoss late game is easier until you reach the highest levels. Most of the complaints are aimed at the highest level (or at least the ones you can take seriously).

[Blowko-1439]

@PaInLeSs-1413

To be fair, it is well established that protoss late game is easier

If one race provides higher performance for equal skill, that race is overpowered.

[CollegeWings-1825]

Spellcasters good unit

[BabaYaga-13624]

@Blowko-1439

If one race provides higher performance for equal skill, that race is overpowered.

Sure in your deranged world Skill=APM, so if you put a bunch of concert-piano-players to compete in SC2, they will all be GM and in a couple of months Code-S players…
This despicable clown reinvented RTS in RTFc (Real-Time-Fast-Click).
He excludes the “clicking” of the brain-work in the game and his conclusions are ready for the latrines…

[Blowko-1439]

@BabaYaga-13624

Sure in your deranged world Skill=APM

It’s literally in the chart. It’s a fact. Sorry but delusion isn’t a valid argument. APM has a clear relationship with skill.

[PaInLeSs-1413]

Not necessarily. You will never have a game were the skills of the races are the same, this is just impossible. Also some times harder comps are harder because they have more potential, and others are easier because they are not very microable hence they are overall weaker. Also You forgot the second part of my post, it is easier until you reach the highest level. Lambo (zerg player) recently made a video explaning explaining that Late game Toss is just as hard as zerg at the highest level because of all the units you need to control with different control groups (templars, tempest, carriers, oracle, motherhip, each of these are better off in different hotkeys which makes the micro really hard)

[Blowko-1439]

@PaInLeSs-1413

You will never have a game were the skills of the races are the same, this is just impossible

You don’t need to. You just need equal reward for equal skill regardless of what that skill may be.

@PaInLeSs-1413

Also some times harder comps are harder because they have more potential, and others are easier because they are not very microable hence they are overall weaker.

I’m not convinced that being easier to do translates to weaker / lower skill ceiling. I think it DOES translate to less skilled / less motivated players playing it but I don’t think it drags down the peak potential. In fact based on some basic facts about the game it’s almost certainly not the case. If micro is easier then you can do more of it so the skill ceiling is pushed higher by the easier micro. It’s the same for multitasking. Micro that is easier can be done more reliably across multiple locations meaning a higher performance peak.

AlphaStar went 3-0 against Serral back before all these crazy Zerg nerfs, using the APM budget of a typical Grandmaster. So the potential to win is there for Protoss the players are just bad and I don’t think that should be confused with Protoss having a lower skill ceiling.

[UTHERTRUTHBR-1378]

Blowko blows

[Ðióġeŋex-2112]

@Blowko-1439

AlphaStar went 3-0 against Serral back before all these crazy Zerg nerfs, using the APM budget of a typical Grandmaster.

lmao,Serral so washed up that lost againt a bot.

[Kyrie-6906]

Nothing new with this claim. Always a race / unit / game problem. Never the player.

Topic #1. Cheers.

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[2021 ver.] Compiled Replies to Buff / Nerf / Complaints

Hello. Here’s my compilation regarding the common posts relating to Buff / Nerf / Complaints that take up more than 50% (just a conservative estimate) of the threads in the forums. I noticed that most of the time, many of these claims, though logical / well thought out, disregard the original intentions that the game developers have, while attempting to put forth the OP’s own intentions. There is nothing wrong in doing that per se. But assuming if the purpose is to catch the developers’ atten…

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@Blowko-1439

AlphaStar went 3-0 against Serral back before all these crazy Zerg nerfs, using the APM budget of a typical Grandmaster. So the potential to win is there for Protoss the players are just bad and I don’t think that should be confused with Protoss having a lower skill ceiling.

The explanation was serral being unable to play properly partly because he didnt have his hotkey setup.

This result had nothing to do with ballance since i think florencio beat it and unless youre willing to say florencio is a better player than serral (wich everyone would agree is wrong) and florencio has any chances of beating serral wich nobody would think then ballance was not a reason for this result.

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@DeusMetallum-1153

Lowko talks about about how Skytoss is overpowered unless you are Top tier GM or Pro

lol, top GMs and pros are losing to Protoss all the time. Mana just 2-0’d Rogue with void rays and he does this all the time.

[lllIlIlIlIl-1983]

@Traction-11404

top GMs and pros are losing to Protoss all the time. Mana just 2-0’d Rogue with void rays and he does this all the time

@Blowko-1439

I’m not convinced that being easier to do translates to weaker / lower skill ceiling. I think it DOES translate to less skilled / less motivated players playing it but I don’t think it drags down the peak potential. In fact based on some basic facts about the game it’s almost certainly not the case. If micro is easier then you can do more of it so the skill ceiling is pushed higher by the easier micro. It’s the same for multitasking. Micro that is easier can be done more reliably across multiple locations meaning a higher performance peak

Big of sc2 have spoken…