That tells you nothing about the actual builds.
It actually tells you ALLOT about the build. Ive even said the timings your supposed to hit at.
Youâve said nothing of value with nothing visual.
This is not my thread.
Just standard Shaz for you. There was a PvP finals at a GSL last year which was 2 games away from being a ZvZ GSL finals.
It takes at least 1 minute, maybe a little more, before the lost SCVs takes a noticable toll on the attack. The massive zealot warp in in the main, on the other hand, will cripple your ability to hold in the short term.
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I just now watched Classic making Adept-Phoenixes against Fantasy. And eventually winning.
Classic is not a progamer? Hm, who could have guessedâŚ
That was a super tournament not a code S though
protoss still OPâŚ
lmao skipper you are the exact problem with this forum.
Theres thousands of games played where almost every protoss make stalkers early game.
Then you nitpick and look for that 1 example where it doesnt happen.
Everyone already knows opening stalkers IS the safest route. It IS the standard to have atleast 1 stalker out.
Stalkers are faster then adepts. They actually can chase reapers. Stalkers can kite back when they are infront of the enemy base to see when the enemy pushes, without dying due to lack of mobility like the adept.
So skipper, you look like a fool.
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Sorry, I thought you said it was stim that was doing you in? you canât have it both ways.
This isnât even a thing. Replays or it didnât happen.
Pot meet kettle.
/Popcorn
I donât think you understand how a discussion works. Youâve made a claim, but provided exactly zero substantive proof behind your claim, instead expecting us to simply believe you at face value. Thatâs not how this works. Do you know what âBurden of Proofâ is?
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Stim IS broken right now with this timing. What do you not understand? Someone early pushes with 2 rax 1 techlab in wich he first researches concussive and then straight after stim. +3 rax is that so hard for you to understand? It is 1 build they are not seperate things they influence eachother. Have you ever played sc2?
The mere idea you say it isnt a âthingâ is literally the most close minded awnsers ive seen so far here. You realise these âthingsâ become a âthingâ when ppl DISCOVER them after race favoured patches? Jesus.
That pot the meet kettle statement is childish and doesnt belong in this forum. If you want to act like a child go to a kindergarten.
I dont think you understand how a discussion works, i am not asking you to âbelieve meâ on face value. I am basically telling you a build that works in this new patch. You can actually try it! mr fanboy. Figure it out for yourself. Its easy as hell to learn.
But then again you are diamond. I cant ask of the likes of you to understand what a timing is. Seeing thats the reason why you are in diamond.
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Truth be told, aggression builds are the easiest to dissect. If youâve noticed, often times a new patch brings higher win rates for Terran which then taper off as time passes.
That said, 20 seconds is a LOT and itâs not like 2 base Terran all ins were exactly weak beforehand.
People complaining about the EMP buff, however, seem like they were just pampered by an easy TvX and donât want to have to worry about late game at ALLâŚ
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This is true. However, you stating that it is a thing does not immediately make it a thing as you have yet to provide any legitimate evidence that it is, in fact, a thing.
We cannot and will not take you at your word. This is not how discussions work. Evidence is required to prove the point you are trying to make. In this case, evidence would be a replay, or several replays, of this particular build happening.
Again, you are doing so without any evidence to back up your statement. It would be a lot more credible if you did.
This is exactly what you are asking everyone in the thread to do. No evidence to back you up except your word that its true.
This is true, though the build he appears to be complaining about doesnât seem to be a 2 base build but a one base bio all in.
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Actually, i am talking about a 2 baseâŚ
it goes rax-> expand -> 2d rax add techlab, push, use second base for mules
Right now i am using an old build again and it seems to work versus the early timing. havnt faced it allot yet, but will see if its possible to defend the initial push with the build.
See that was what he was talking about. You descibed the build in broad terms. You didnât mention the ONE thing you needed to. What TIME DOES IT HIT?!
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4 minutes: 2 marauder with concussive about 6/8 marines.
6 minutes: 10+ marauders 15+ marines when stim finishes with perma rally.
⌠Stim finishes at 4:30 nowâŚ
Youâre calling him a noob because he doesnât know timing and youâre talking about timing that wouldâve been a minute late before the patch man.
2-1-1 arrived at your base between 5:15 and 5:30. If heâs hitting at 6, itâs because heâs doing a combat shield all in.
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From what I know and correct me if Iâm wrong, stim timings are gated by when medivacs come out, not by when stim finishes.
However combat shield timings are what scares me more. But at the moment they feel fine to handle. Still I need more experience against them, I feel I play an awful lot of battle mech and BC openings actually and I am more entertained when playing against bio.
3 racks with hellbats seems pretty broken. Even 2 racks (think of it like a 2-1-1 where you donât switch the factory on the startport).