Or is it considered more a less the “moderately competent” rank. At what ladder rank is the rank you can start saying you know how the game is played right? I was just curious since, I wanted some perspective on what makes for good ranks.
diamond knows the tip of an iceberg, they know some very basic stuffs and can execute basic stuffs like macro, counter, a little bit micro. But the pride is so high that they think they know everything and blame balance for their loses instead of reviewing the lose and see what mistake cause it.
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I would say that they do everything good but nothing great. The have solid marcro , solid micro, solid build orders. However they do nothing great which stops them from being masters.
If I had in suggestions I would say concentrate on one thing only become great at that one thing and get masters.
And then maybe you want to separate masters from GM. I would say that Masters may make a lot more mistakes.
then if you separate GM from pros I would say that Pros pretty much have great overall mechanics.
and to take this a step further what separate pros from pros. I would say the small things.
for example not only do they have their timings down but the other race timings down as well as far as when something is supposed to hit and how many units. etc etc etc
Just to make sure I answered the question they know the game but
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I am guessing then that bronze then is basically the"I am going to afk for the whole game rank" or “I’d rather role-play instead of fight” rank.
I have heard multiple pros state in their streams that there is very little difference between diamond and mid masters.
I think Diamond one is the group you are asking about, you see the only thing diamond one wants is to be masters 3. So in general they study more, follow builds practice macro etc. I find high diamond one much harder than low masters 3.
Diamond 1 have quite a few decent players.
In diamond you are bad at all aspects of the game. You understand almost nothing and your mechanics are bad.
Master players can follow a basic build order but their macro falls apart when they are under pressure.
GM players have an ok understanding of some parts of the game. Their macro is ok but micro and multitasking is bad.
Pro players, at least top 30 pros, know how to play this game. They can handle all aspects of the game at an ok level.
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Diamond 3 used to be like 3700 mmr in early 2018. Now it’s about 3300? Ladder is a huge joke now. A diamond player today saying they know how to play the game is like saying I’m a pro gamer because I’m master 1 (my mmr ~ 4850, early 2018 limit was over 5k, now it’s 4780, making me m1 this season). I don’t feel any sense of accomplishment anymore with all these ranks being handed out for free.
To answer your question, probably high m3, which is currently ~4500 mmr. This used to be high diamond 1/low m3.
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I think moderately competent is fair. I topped out in diamond so I cant really tell you anything other than Diamond players are not good enough to be talking about balance based upon their own games. Myself included. Now I do think players, even those below diamond, can talk competently about balance based on pro play. If you have a good argument with evidence, your rank shouldn’t matter.
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Probably master 2-master 1, at that rank you know how the game is played or you should know it, but that does not mean you play it well, there are still missplays on that level.
At dia1-master 3 is basically trying to do a basic build and probably doing it incorrectly and just starting to have a ‘‘decent’’ macro (not floating minerals).
Diamond 3 is the sweet spot for whiners
Blizz revamped the ladder in LotV to make players feel better. IDK exactly but it’s like master league is double what is was in WoL and HotS, and part of LotV diamond would have been gold league in HotS ladder system.
I think diamond players will have 1 thing that kind of carries their play style. They will have an all in that works at their level or reasonable macro or okay micro behind a few units.
The big thing that separates diamond and the metal leagues is diamond’s ability to execute something correctly. The thing that separates diamond and masters is the ability to execute two things correctly like simultaneous macro and army movement.
Build orders are really second to mechanics. Build orders are nice when you have the ability to play behind them. They’re over rated relative to what is needed to improve at the game.
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It’s more a rank of like “Oh I learned how to play now I can finally start playing the game”
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Gold. When i was gold i know all tricks in book from that moment on it was clickity and eyes who had faster fingers/eyes he wins the game. 1 time i reached masters in wol 3 more times in hots and it goes like this:
The more you play you memorize builds so you don’t think about them and eyes have more time to watch minimap/resources and supply than come that timing attack and you win or loose.
With time, you also learn to transition from that timing attack if you deal enough dmg that is and game goes on or you lose 2 min later cause you didn’t get enough dmg.
With hots we all saw that game goes MOAR clickity FASTER clickity and many didn’t like it but stick with game, and we had 1 mass exodus of players around 2013 (when hots came out) surprise surprise… With lotv we have this timing attack cause developers wanted that certain race is stronger in certain period of game but so far this ended up with 1 race dominating and 1 race beeing so up that they suddenly disappear on ladder (member couple month ago when all terran wondered where did all toss disappear in time when z dominated) also game went full clickity mode and now if you stand for moment to think about next move you can be in macro disadvantaged and if you don’t play 2 or 3 days prepare to have lots of stomping in games before ure fingers come to old speed again.
DIamond 1 is probably the league => I know how to play the game like the pros in theory but practically, either i don’t have the mecanisms, either i don’t practice enough to maintain a good level.
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lol, not really. The fact that people upvote trash like this says it all about the sc2 community.
The reality of it is D is a huge league that spans from D3, which is barely knowing your stuff to D1, which does know their stuff fairly well.
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Historically I have gotten to D3 merely by knowing only the first steps of a basic build order (in my case, the generic Zerg opener ending with spending my first 100 gas on ling speed, then just winging EVERYTHING afterwards). I am aware of things I need to keep up with, but I simply do not have the mechanics to do so (constant creep spread, injects, the usual stuff).
These days I don’t even think the league itself matters as much as the MMR you have. SC2 could abolish the league system and it wouldn’t even matter. It’s just there so there is a shiny badge to look at. If I started playing ladder again I’d probably land in platinum, and then back to diamond if I bothered to practice a little for a couple of days.
For these forums it doesn’t even matter. Some of the worst ideas I’ve ever read come from masters/GMs anyway.
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Fully agree. Going from D3 to D1 is like going from bronze 3 to D3. Its a huge skill gap.
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