The only thing liberators need to be useful is a +2 air attack. It decimates stalkers and basically ALL Protoss ground unit.
How is a unit that counters ALL Protoss ground unit fair?
Stalkers vs Liberators is a number game, Stalker don’t even beat liberators at 10 range, and then they still have a +3 range upgrade?
What kind of bull is that?
Let’s not talk about bio too much, even though it’s incredibly broken, having T1 and T1.5 being STRONGER than MOST unit composition a Protoss player can have? Sure, seems fair.
Protoss needs a lot of ground unit to beat bio, but liberators counter all protoss ground units, what are we supposed to do but run?
Liberators are dumb, I don’t understand how any experienced Terran here lose a game against Protoss. Terran have all the tools to counter Protoss, yet here they are in the forum, crawling like cockroaches.
Without liberators terran would just die. If there’s a high level terran with strong late game against toss without libs I’d really love to know what they’re doing. Terrans need to force protoss to make stalker mid-late or they really would just get walked over, emp is useful but it doesn’t kill units and chargelots with big tech behind it just rule. Protoss tech is still more mobile than libs and terran is still tossing marines into the grinder as a severe lack of a better mineral unit exists.
It isn’t. You are supposed to flank them while sieged so they can’t run. But good luck doing that with the much slower protoss army. Storm can also work if your templar are close enough as their siege. Usually protoss do zealot warp ins in the main or at the terran’s third while they pressure the fourth. Then you basically pray that the terran’s multitasking fails. If it doesn’t, there is nothing you can do.
Classifying a unit by tier means nothing and is a completely ineffective, disingenuous argument in starcraft. Chargelots, cracklings, all advanced t1 units with support. Should I complain that chargelots kill siege tanks? What should protoss have to use instead, high templar because it’s “higher tier?” No, that’s stupid.
Why invest in tech and production building if a unit is not going to be better?
You see how dumb you sound right now?
Tier exist to say that the amount of investment you need to put in them, marine being T1 literally means you don’t need to put much investment to them, despite not needing much investment, they stay strong until late game.
I’m sorry, I prefer being average instead of dumb.
I’m sure Showtime is a bronze league, that’s why he got beaten by liberators, of course. Must mean showtime is a bronze leaguer.
I don’t even play Protoss anymore and seeing Protoss struggle still hurts my soul. Disgusting.
i had to agree with peekachi once, it didn’t feel right. but one time he said something that resonated with me. i can’t remember what it was… probably storm OP that i can get behind.
I’m diamond in 2 months playing the game.
I’m stuck at dia 3 because I’m having problem with Zerg, perhaps this is because I’ve been too focused on making Terran players salty.
Now I’m giving up on Protoss because obviously Protoss is not viable to have fun with. Losing can be fun, losing because you only play slightly better instead of 2x better against a Terran is frustrating and not fun.
3rd game. You probably have seen this, but if you are like Peekachi or his spawnlings, you will just disregard pro games that doesn’t suit your agenda, like all other TCF out there.
that i can get behind.