Get rid of Cannon Rush

First off, that wasn’t even the claim to begin with. That was from the “maxpax” build in HotS. People think that build is good now, when it was WAY WAY better in HotS. So, not hard to believe.

That said, I’ve played around 7 games with this opening so far, and I have only lost once. A guy opened up 2 rax reaper and I accidentally canceled an adept when it was 50% complete.

Yeah, because Terrans are so familiar with a cannon rush that stops after 1 cannon. I can’t imagine why anyone even pays it any mind. And it’s so efficient trying to kill a cannon with marines, after all.

I used to stream on twitch when high GM in HotS. I now have started recording my games, which I probably even uploaded game that put me at 100th on EU… Yet… still possible I’m boosted. I guess I would say it’s bat s crazy, but it does seem like Maxpax is basically copying every build I’ve ever done. So, who knows.

Thank god people play standard.

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The cannon rush people confuse me to no end. I dont understand how anyone dies to this stuff. It has to be a troll scheme by MGT88 and Playa. No other SC2 forum complains about it other than this one. No wonder we are the laughing stock.

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So you are saying you are better than progamers who consistently die to Cannon Rush, right? I can name and point you a plethora of games. Seems like we have our next WCS champion and it is Bacon.

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Post all the links that you would like, just don’t be mad when we can point out their mistakes and thus prove that the design of the rush is not to blame but rather the laziness of the players.

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Can’t have it both ways. Here’s your advocating “just ignore it” in action: Playa (GM) vs Unix (GM) | Protoss vs Terran - YouTube

That’s the last P vs T I played, vs a 5850 MMR GM on EU. He didn’t bother to pull scvs. He just used the most common response. Try to get a tank out asap.

In this scenario, there’s really no difference between a cannon at your natural and 10 cannons shooting away at your CC. I don’t care whether you’re playing vs a Platinum player or Heromarine, they can only expand so much later than you before they lose (granted you don’t lose to an all-in).

It’s simply the most abusive strategy in the game. If you adopt the strategy of going all out in trying to stop a probe/cannon rush the second you see any tomfoolery, then you just auto lose to any fake cannon rush, and real cannon rushes can leave satisfied with your lost mining, as is.

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If someone cannon rushed me in WCS you wouldnt see me die. After that obviously, but there is very little difference in holding a rush from any league to GM. The technique is the same from bronze to GM slightly more micro maybe required in GM but it’s all the same.

In BW you had to search your opponent’s location in the map. How come starcraft 2 doesn’t work like this? Would it break its balance? It would definitely help with the cannon rushing issue

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LOTV screwed more things up than it ever fixed.

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Lmao. You did a gateway forge rush and those have been around since wol days. This is nothing new. The game went to 4 bases and you won with a carrier amove and not the “cannon rush”. If anything this is a great example of how overpowered protoss is vs mech.

What are you even talking about? Who has ever gone gateway, forge like that in P vs T? If it was a thing, they wouldn’t be sub 50% vs Terran.

You’re so dumb. Wish you would finally stop talking. “Terran can just ignore the cannon!” Terran ignores cannon and ends up getting an expansion over 2 minutes later. You: “the cannon rush didn’t win you the game.” Jesus christ.

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If you aren’t lying about being boosted, protoss needs to be nerfed ASAP. There is no way builds like this should make it to 5.8k.

So I guess by this logic, you beating GMs with Proxy hatches means Zerg needs to be nerfed ASAP too?

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Top level American in BW. Check. Top 10 GM in HotS. Check. High GM in LotV. Check. “Omg… if you’re not boosted this, boosted that. Boost. Boost. I need a booster seat.” Seen road kill that had more brains.

Cannon rushers can get well above 6k MMR, yet can’t get GM without cannon rushing. No s it’s broken/abusive, numb n. SC 2 is just a glorified arcade map that is worse than Nexus Wars, by far, and we’re all supposed to act like idiots and pretend infestors are beatable.

Lose brain cells playing this game and watching this game. I guess… one can’t blame you. You must have watched more than anyone else.

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Proxy hatch is an entirely different beast altogether than gateway forge rush. Gateway forge rushes are really bad builds. I used to use them in WoL when I played random and I was there to witness the evolution of the build and eventually it’s extinction as players figured out how to deal with it. In LotV it is even weaker than before thanks to liberators.

Yeah, one’s a brainless all-in. The other is just a way to get your expansion faster…

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There are 20 or so proxy hatch builds. List them.

I didn’t realize you played stupidly greedy on the back of it. He just needed to 1 base you and you’d be a dead protoss.

What else am I going to do? I invented the “maxpax” build. I already said… this is just the LotV version that accomplishes the same thing.

Welcome to a strategy game champ, where the more counter intuitive a possible counter is, the better your strategy is.

Why did I have more success with dts in HotS than other NA players… because I didn’t do all-ins with them. Made bare minimum. Unfortunately, there is NO WAY TO GO WRONG with cannons. No matter what you do, you get rewarded. Little risk, just lots of reward. Definitely no risk against Toss.

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Maybe not die to the first cyclone would be smart?

Let me know when you come up with a strategy that has no theoretical counters. Maybe then you can stop lying about your rank and having to hide your profile. Until then, let me worry about what no one does vs cannon openings.

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He isn’t hiding his profile, hes posted multiple videos of himself playing against other GM’s on Tehbatz. He is definitely GM.

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