I feel there are a lot of master in eu- and because of that the mmr has declined and started to inflate.
if you get put into masters with 2500mr then you are prone to lose mmr even if you play really well…
i think this happened a lot of people who i have met in the ladder… so many low mmr masters
tbh i have not noticed that and i kinda have the Master league glitch which i’m not addressing to blizzard because i don’t want to so i’m going to move on and try to get the required MMR for the league i’m actually in
This has been a bug that’s been around for a while. They’re not really masters, it’s just a border bug.
No its a bug that appears for Like 5 years now.
They get Matched via mmr Not via Rank. Meaning they still Play vs Low Level Players and Not vs Masters.
Skill regresses with inactivity. Most ranking systems have a form of ranking decay to compensate for this. This ties the activity level of the player base to the variance of the mmr system as a whole.
No it’s not just a boder. They belong to master league division and compete there with other master division players for the top spot. They also play in master league tournaments and receive much less mmr or division points according to the league they are in.
And as far as I know opponent quality is increased also accordingly to the level of the league with the bottom mmr of master 3.
I think you don’t understand.
He is talking about population decline. As a result lots of master/diamond players land in lower leagues. They are often referred as “smurfs” but they are not. Simply majority of people who quit the game are lower ranked players. Because league distribution must be maintained players from higher leagues must fill their place. As a result diamond is full of masters, plat full of diamonds etc. Ladder is dead.
Checkout sc2pulse nephest global population - at the end of the last season there were only 140k active players, now we only have 80k and with every season these numbers are dwindling.
not quite did i mean that thought…
i mean mmr inflation as similar as “money inflation - kind of”…
many players are sitting on a bank of huge pile of mmr and they been there for a long time, where new “grinders” find it really hard to get much of it…
time will tell if my senses of the current situation was right.
Thankfully people create new accounts, increasing the total mmr pool… so it doesn’t matter that much 
This is still a border bug. They compete with other (real) master players, because they are placed in their division. That doesnt mean they are real master players.
The tournament is still using mmr as a reference. But the league of the tournament will be of the highest league of a participant. If someone got wrongfully placed in masters, the tournament gets set to masters but no “real” master (over 4300 mmr) is actually participating.
That being said there are numerous of other bugs or system abuses to still be a real master player but not being in the master league (tanking mmr) or real master players participating at ingame tournies.
Its actually rather a deflation of mmr in a sense. Since there are many casual players leaving and better players getting new accounts they tank the overall mmr. As someone who has been masters for a very long time i can see a huge difference between a 3k player from now and from like 5 years ago. 3k is now much much much better. Also either the population has decreased a fair bit or many many many more players began to smurf (or a combination of both) because smurfing is a much much bigger issue now.
There are many ex-masters who said something like they were masters in 2018 or something and came back and noticed a massive increase of skill. Obviously you need some time to get good again but even after getting good they lost like a division worth of mmr minimum.
I hope that clears everything.
In short:
What you’re basicially saying that there is no short cut to masters. Only if you tank mmr with thousands of games building it up to 5000mmr. That would basicially make it impossible to new account to get into master because old tanking mmr accounts would not have huge loss streaks to give them in.
What I am trying to say that what if there is other mechanism that detect well playing player like long win streaks and such… And then ranks that would eventually decide that despite the player not tank thousands of games to build up mmr slowly, he showed master level of game plays in his (lets say 150 games) and so he was being put into masters with low mmr.
I actually stated the opposite.
There is a bug that places you in masters. But only for the league, but not the mmr. It often happens if you play your 5 placement matches, meaning new/ or casual accounts are often under the influence of that bug.
Tanking mmr means you go down with your mmr.
Yes, its harder to get masters now because of the smurfs.
We dont have this system currently. The system doesnt detect how good or bad you are. There is a “smurfproof” detection tho. If you win too often you get placed vs much higher and higher opponents.
And if you create a new account you have whats called “provisional mmr” meaning you can gain like +100 mmr every match for your first like 25 matches. Meaning if you are actually good, you will get instantly to masters since you would rarely lose a match. I think i got masters in like 10 matches on a new account. Much quicker/instantly if you already have a race thats ranked fairly high. Then you instantly get enemies on the same level as this race. For example if you are 4k with terran and you rank with toss, you will instantly get 4k enemies as toss.
My both accounts with master low mmr are real believe it or not… I also had 5 times in master with other account (you think they all are just bugs)? And I am rank 13000 in 2v2 currently (its pretty difficult to get there solo).
If your mmr is below 4300 you are not masters (per definition). Yes, this is a bug. This is pretty common.
If you still think you are masters then hit me up and we can play. I can test if you are really masters ^^
I bet you also tell people that santa isn’t real too. wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. Let him cook in masters.
I would tell grown ups, yes. I assume hes a grown up, so im telling him. Next thing hes gonna say is hes the next serral if all the smurfs wouldnt hold him back in 2500 mmr range.
If a 2500 guy claims hes plat or if a 4200 mmr player says hes master ill let it slide. But you cannot lie +2500 on your back. I mean sometimes you gonna step in. Like when bourne claimed he could do 225 lbs when he was 5 or whatever just because his ego demands it you gonna tell him thats just waaay off the charts.
What ive seen is quite opposite. We are having mmr deflation. It is because the player base shrinks more and more each year, and it gets harder and harder to maintain the mmr.
I propably said it wrong, I meant something like ‘total amount of mmr has declined in the pool’.
I think player with 2200 master 3 isnt as refined as a players with 4500+mmr masters 3. 2200 mmr master is like a noob master 3.
No. A 2200 mmr player is a silver player. Not a masters player. Not even close.
There is no difference bewteen a 2200 mmr silver player and a 2200 masters player other than the master league being well known and reported bug.