Maybe just maybe can the balance team stop buffing Zerg? Let the other two races at least have a chance, you know?
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Zerg is getting gutted on the new patch what more do you want ffs.
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Zerg isn’t at all.
Zerg also isn’t all Nydus or Infestors.
You are totally right.
Observers and Adept Glaives absolutely need nerfs. Protoss had 2 in the Ro8 and 1 in the Ro4, we can’t let that happen again.
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Ya it is…
It kind of is. Funny tho - when SH continues to own Protoss some dumpsters will continue to qq about PvT
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Zerg isn’t even remotely close of being gutted.
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Zerg is getting completely gutted. Nydus and infestor broodlord were basically the only points of strength left for the race.
Lurker buffs do nothing outside of ZvZ.
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Every single unit of Zerg is strong in all phases of the game, what are you talking about?
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That is not true at all. Without infestor BL zerg will get rolled by T/P deathballs especially so since Thor buff. And nydus triple nerf means zerg counter attack potential is completely gimped.
I play Zerg and use Lurkers that is not true as outside of ZvZ it is a very viable unit and has been for a while the problem is how SC2 meta works is people just rush for the current in thing and think everything else isn’t good until it starts getting used infestors ironically are an example of this.
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They have a role in ZvP but the range buff doesn’t much. Not nearly as much as losing IT and broodlord range hurts.
In ZvT if they work it’s just because the terran isn’t used to it.
Terran pretending that the new thor isnt broken at all , zerg air get slaughtered by thors new buff , yet some half brain person claims for more nerfs? more ignorant and dumb one person cant even be? right?
Test 10 thors against 10 Bloodlords , 8 thors stay alive and 0 BL left , same for carriers. Guess protoss players didnt see the masacre , can already imagine the whine threads when patch drops.
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10 thors should absolutely massacre 10 broods… Thor is made to counter broods and carriers. Its trash at everything else.
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They dunk on mutas and hydras and they basically trade even with roaches/ultras for cost. Lings are the only thing cost efficient vs them, but all you need is like 4 hellbats and lings become irrelevent.
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The range buff is significant especially if you know how to utilize Lurker comps imagine mech only Vipers and Infestors are covering the tanks which also happen to be cloaked and it gets even more problematic if you have static defence to help positional play. Just wait until everyone starts using the Lurker like they did the Infestor and start figuring out the ins and out of it and you’ll see just how good that range buff is.
Some people think the Lurker isn’t good because using the unit requires actual strategic thought in its use it’s not a hit this spell to win or amove type unit you need to build an actual comp to cover its weaknesses and have knowledge in positioning and strategic set ups so as a result it requires some actual effort using it.
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This! I don’t think people realize how terrifying lurkers could be in PvZ with the new infestor ability. The only way for Protoss to deal reliably with Lurkes is to go Skytoss. But if you go Lurkers you already have Hydras which together with some sprinkled corruptors and the new microbial shroud makes a really scary army. Of course this army requires much more strategic and tactical thought behind it but i would argue that its easier control wise than landing all the infestor/viper spells accurately. I have said this before, most ladder Zergs should celebrate the shift from infestors to less spelcaster heavy comps. It makes lategame easier for them!
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Toss can just use distruptors
Bad argument man. Same as When Zerg players talk about how Terran (1 player) won GSL past few years. It’s anecdotal at best.
Raven gets all 3 of its amazing abilities “changed” into “useless” = fair
Infestor gets one of its game breaking abilities shifted to simply “amazing” = unfair?
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Lurkers unburrow and move faster than a Nova can detonate. The only way Disruptors are beating Lurkers is through the Zerg misplaying.
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They trade poorly against Hydras and even vs Roaches. Problem is, replacing Thor takes a minute, replacing roach less than 20s and one is MUCH faster than the other. Meaning you can never dictate engagement, tipping scales to the roach.
Also, after nerf, Thors “aoe” hits 1 muta in a move commanded flock unless you intentionally clump them. Thors trade extremely poorly vs Muta flock if it can afford to stay and fight (No clump of marine stimming to it)