2019 WCS Global Finals Topic

lmaoo I came to this thread looking for hype and fun but i found balance whine by people in diamond LMAO

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Lol. Protoss sucks. Just plain sucks as a race. Best unit in the protoss army can have zero attack 2 seconds into battle? Great balance decision!

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hero eclipsed reynor in every way and still lost

that said the problem isnt with zerg

it’s with protoss being straight up garbage

Straight up garbage as a race. I agree. Zerg can delete a mineral line with a few banes. Terran can delete a mineral line with mine drops. Protoss dual storm gets like 4 drones. Garbage race. Was watching this tourney to see if SC2 is worth the pain and suffering. Honestly it’s not.

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I’m liking the 5 game format. We are seeing some really fun series because of it.

Game five was a knife fight, both players made a ton of mistakes.

I usually don’t even watch pro SC 2, since I can’t stomach to see this stuff. I hear that Serral guy is good, though. If he says he only fears Reynor, and Reynor just made an evo instead of a spawning pool and then made 4 overlords after maxing… Gotta go with the guy who doesn’t make below Diamond league mistakes.

I’m rooting for Elazer to be the first Zerg to win a WCS while going up to 20/200 supply and sending all of his overlords to his opponent’s base and losing 80% of them before realizing any are under attack.

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yeah, toss is so garbage, that only 6 players in the top16 play toss… that whining is so pathetic lol. hero could have won multiple times, but he didnt. not because zerg is op or toss is trash… but because hero made mistakes… i know, thats a unbelievable thing in your world.

so if you dont watch pro sc2… what are you doing here? i know, you wanted to sound funny and ironic, but instead, you sound pathetic. nothing more. admitting, that hero made crucial mistakes must be so hard :frowning:

If there is anything that Toss pros need to be ridiculed/laughed at for, it’s how often they lose probes to baneling runbys. It’s absolutely inexcusable, yet it happens nearly every time.

“Usually,” while close to “never,” implies I sometimes watch games. For instance, I didn’t play any SC 2 last year, and I also wasn’t watching any. As a Toss player, you never watch learn anything… it’s just some kinda circus spectacle. Akin to watching a guy with 2 hands tied behind his back try to beat 3 guys in a fight.

It’s amusing. You can only take so much amusement before the disgust kicks in and you need a break, though.

this hurts the casual player :frowning:

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Toss did okay in the beginning which is why there are 6 protoss players in WCS finals

but toss having a modicum of success = nerf the race into oblivion, the result is what you are currently seeing.

“stats made mistakes”
“classic made mistakes”
“hero makes mistakes”

fact of the matter is that these players, literally 3 of the most talented players to touch the race, are regularly getting TRASHED by terran and zerg players alike, and not just in this tournament. legend like sOs is a meme now. And they arent just getting destroyed by maru, dark, rogue, and seral, but greenhorn like reynor and some patchterran in heromarine… them losing is regular now so dumb

these are kespa legends getting rocked while bums like time are performing better.

protoss is going to be in shambles at the top level now that hero, stats, and classic are on the way out.

ill eat my words if a protoss player makes a strong run to the finals but we all know that’s not going to happen.

It tilts me. I don’t know what the other races learn, but as Terran in BW… you’re an absolute donkey if you take your eyes off the minimap. There is no excuse to lose marines to lurkers cause you weren’t paying attention. It’s called being an idiot and not realizing what game you’re playing.

How these guys can play for so much money on the line and not learn the same “keep your eyes on the minimap no matter what” mantra is just a joke to me. Like how many games do you expect to win after you lose an entire probe line?

It’s embarrassing. It’s even worse than being supply blocked, which shouldn’t happen either. These guys make so many fundamental mistakes that you just wouldn’t expect from players at this level. I don’t recall seeing stuff like this in BW. It’s like the game is just too easy for people to take it seriously or something.

This also hurts the casual player :frowning:

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there were 15 zvp happening in the finals of all premier and major tournaments in 2019. so in 15 times, toss reached the finals. wouldnt you call this a strong run?

why does balance get judged after EEEEVEEERRRYYYY series, or even better, after every map? everyone knows, that everyone is frustrated. and that everything about zerg is op. it got repeated like 20000 times now.

zerg isnt OP

protoss is UP because of terran whine

That is the terran M.O.

for example

Terran complain about protoss lategame = carrier, tempest, HT nerfed into garbage.

Protoss starts struggling vs infestor /BL → Terran claims that infestor /BL is OP (despite terran being favored against them) → zerg nerfs and terran buffs

this is Terrancraft

Hype! Still Zergs have not yet lost one single series against non-Zergs. Zerg players are just the best. Players in other races don’t deserve to win since basically they don’t even have the talent to choose the right race.

Well done BALANCE TEAM! All of our fans like ZVZ match the most.

PS: I have never seen a game died because of balance problem, and I gradually believe SC2 will be the one.

people saying that since 2010 and here we are.

also, show me a competive game, that stayed alive for almost 10 years and still getting patched.

lol reynor does insane drone micro/block, but 4 hellions still kill double digit drones

straight up BS

I really believe today’s games do not even worth to make people want to whine about balance.
If one player plays perfect but still cannot win against a normal player, or a terrible player can win against a normal player, there may be something wrong about balance.
But if both players play terrible and the outcome is simply decided by who make less mistakes, how do you know whether there are balance issue?

Back in 2010, SC2 was THE most popular game and they just threw it by the balance problem and game charging system. Now after f2p, views and players are recovering, but the imbalance problem (if blizzard keep ignoring it) will crash this good situation once again.

Also, Dota and LOL also getting patched even CSGO are getting patched. For sure because of the game mechanism, the balance problem is not as crucial as SC2, but they are not making games worse to play, worse to watch, like what SC2 balance team is currently doing.

reynor baneling micro insane in this game and vs hero