This is literally happening, actiblizz is trying to get as much cash from ow’s incredibly dedicated playerbase, the moment Bobby and his ghouls decide that it is no longer profitable they will drop it and run with the money, that’s capitalism baby.
Wouldn’t mind paying $15 for 15-20 missions, but 3? aint no way, like I get the jokes about them focusing on new monetization, but for real what was the last 4 years spent on.
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People that don’t like the monetization are just the extreme minority. It must be making them money far and beyond more than how people are reacting in the forums or social media. This is the only explanation. It is working and making them money.
The most perfect description of this phenomenon is addressed by Steve Jobs in this interview.
Its amazing that they sat down after seeing the large backlash from scraping 90% of pve content, then decided to stick a price tag on the remaining table scraps to a already angry community.
And top it off with even more $20 skins and bundles with old skins for $40. So, we are all in agreement that we are now just here to watch this fire burn.
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I dont know what’s worse: companies forgetting what makes a good product in the pursuit of money or consumers forgetting the meaning of value in the pursuit of pleasure.
Honestly, they’re probably equally terrible.
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are you the kind of guy that goes to the local bakery and says “oh, 15 dollars for 1 bread? Well it’s just 15 dollars, I buy 2!”
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I made a post earlier where i stated that i called it months ago, but Blizzard deleted it, cause i can’t even find it anymore lol…
They’re the people we refer to as having more money than brains who put zero value on money and throw it out the window without thinking.
EDIT: Actually found my post buried under other posts about PVE costing money 
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When they announced Overwatch 2, the primary thrust was PvE. They then annoubced that Overwatch 2 would be free to play without an asterisk of any kind. There was zero indication that there would be any charge for PvE content, especially second-rate PvE that was a shadow of what was announced.
You may either be willing to be deluded intentionally, or have absurdly low standards and expectations or be so unprincipled that it doesn’t even dawn on you … but in my world, deceptive marketing, and lies of both omission and false implications are immoral and unacceptable.
You are free to disagree, but you’re just wrong…period
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Oh I pretty much agree and it only makes things worse for everyone long-term.
Positive reinforcement is a thing.
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Did they actually say that? I don’t recall seeing that, maybe I missed it.
15 dollars = 75 Bucks in Brazil! I paid 60 for OW 1 back in the day when it was on discount and I could play those missions for free whenever we had them…
I believe the queue for these missions are going to be insane in South America because I don’t see a lot of people here buying Archives missions… xD
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Except they didn’t say OW2 PvE was going to be free. They said that the PvP side was going to be free and “shared” so that if players had no interest in PvE, they wouldn’t have to rebuy the game for PvP.
Hence why for so long, the general consensus was that OW2 PvP was “just a patch.”
No where did they say anything about the PvE being free. For once, can we stop spreading misinformation when it comes to what was actually told to us?
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Yep. They are part of the problem exactly because they accept everything as-is, instead of putting value on money and demanding quality over quantity. That’s the main reason the game industry is where it’s at right now with prices being jacked-up through the roof in all areas.
Every CEO and market analyst knows that as long as games and content is made available, certain people will buy it regardless of the price…
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It didn’t. People will pay for this, easily. A pride post gets more traffic than this 5 minutes in. Nobody cares about the actual game.
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It’s a combination of monetization and product quality. Liking and tolerating something (due to a lack of alternatives) are two very different things.
The mondetization model of a typical hardware product is similar to that of oldschool boxed video games. The models used by today’s AAA video games (like F2P) are entirely different beasts. Many of these models are complicated enough so that the average customer - unlike the company - doesn’t have a clear picture of the trade-offs.
They’re not on fire anymore they’re blazing lol
This is what is called a lie by ommission.
They said that OW2 was going to be primarily PvE
They said that OW2 was going to be F2P.
There is no ethical wiggle room, if they did not specifically say that only PvP would be free, they lied, and acted in an unethical manner.
Furthermore, the selective memory you have is astounding. The only part of what you said is accurate is the “shared” component, which was delivered to assure those who invested in lootboxes that they would not lose their existing skins.
It had absolutely nothing to do with monetization, as the F2P concept wasn’t even introduced when the sharing was announced, much less the bizarre 2 tier concept which you describe.
Even if it was free they will complain about something 100%. 15$ and if you don’t want to pay it dont, simple.
For people like me and my friends that gets the battle pass I find it cool because is not like I have to buy both things, we just get the story missions and then 1000 coins to get the battle pass plus the free coins you can collect free every season but this people crying all over the place are something else.
They give you a free to play game and you want to get also free story missions like okay I work to make this and give it for free to you. Go to work dude or just grind free coins and get it for free. But then they spend 20$ in a gram of weed lmao
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Just for the record, the campaign was never supposed to be free, quite the opposite actually: that was always going to be the paid portion of OW2. It was the PvP update that they were throwing in for free for OW1 owners.
In light of this it should be pretty unsurprising that they’re trying to recoup money with the salvage project.
I paid just the basic level of attention in 2019 during Blizzcon, where they spoke about their rough monetization plans in several interviews, and I had no trouble understanding that they’re promising a co-op campaign for a box price, with OW1 owners still able to play PvP if they don’t buy it.
Also for the record I think 15 bucks for the bundle is not a very good deal, unless they give an option to buy the missions only for 5 (as if that’ll ever happen…)
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cite this please.
is that a lot of money?
considering they all have at least an undergraduate degree…lets say not as dense as you think.
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