Why Would Anyone Use a M+KB on a Console?

Overwatch does not have that function

What about devices sold by Microsoft and Sony?

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i havnt played console much since forever, think i had a playstation pro (and xbox s) or whatever just to play horizon zero dawn but rarely played and just gave the console(s) to my nephew since meh i was never strapped for cash (im fairly rich). funny thing is that my nephew sold that same xbox to someone else (something i didnt consider) and my ccard got compromised. had to go through alot of hassle with my bank to get it all sorted out.

anyways that is beside the point i dont think console supports keyboard and mouse but there are ways to use them? im sure a lot of users do since the advantage of it. im not saying that people who master the joystick arent to be taken lightly. a lot of pro players use a TRADITIONAL CONTROLLER probably takes thousands of hours to get that good?

I’m on ps4. I’ve never played in a OW console league tournament… Scrim… practice… or anything related to it. Yet in a non Console League discord I was discussing my m&k usage.

Two days later, I got a message from the OW Console League committee stating that I’ve been placed on a “forced hand cam” database list. I called them out on their ethics. I’m now on some “list” somewhere for being a cheater, despite me never having anything to do with that league.

After all was said and done, I sent them a picture of my hands. You see, I’m missing fingers. Its impossible for me to use a controller.

Yet I remain on some league list for being a cheater.

At least Xbox offers developers access to an API that can be used to detect K&M useage.
They leave it to the developers if they use it and what they do with that information.

Since Overwatch neither has separate queues for M&K / Controller, nor people using M&K are getting banned it is pretty safe to say that Blizzard either isn’t using that API at all, or is only using it to get information about what peripherals their playerbase is using, not to take action against M&K users.

They don’t want to upset either part of the playerbase, so they say “Don’t do it” to appease controller users, but don’t actually do anything about it if you do it anyways.

At least as far as I am aware there is no official Console League for Overwatch, so whoever send you that message is probably in the “committee” of some sort of privately organized league and send you that message to intimidate you :woman_shrugging:

The kind of rejects that PC players stereotype console players as when they act like they are so much worse at the game and not simply just using an inferior input device.

There is so much misformation about this in this thread. I’ll preface this by saying that I played with a XIM on PS4 before I got myself a PC (season 4 through 11), so I know a lot about the mkb on console and on PC.

First of all, you cannot turn faster on mkb than controller. You are limited by the console’s turn limit. Secondly, most of the time, the aim assist hinders aiming more than it helps. Only in very specific situation is the aim assist actually useful and I (as well as most of the other XIM users) would turn down the aim assist as much as possible. The aiming in general feels very floaty and there is lots of acceleration that messes with your aim. My aim on console with mkb+aim assist was around 42% acc on soldier, on PC I am at 48%. What I am trying to say is that aiming on console with mkb is so much harder than PC even though I had AA on console. (Some more anecdotal data, I peaked 3.2k on console with mkb and peaked 4.2k on PC; even though I allegedly had an advantage on console by playing on mkb)

Now, you are saying “but it’s still better than controller”. And yes, this may be true in general, but you all seem to forget that there is an SR System in place. The mkb hitscan DPS in your console lobby will not be better than their controller equivalent because they are in the same rank (assuming that neither is smurfing). So it literally doesn’t matter on what input advice you are playing, the skill rating will eliminate the skill gap; a 3000 SR console soldier on mkb will not be better than a 3000 SR console soldier on controller, as their SR is the result of mechanics, awareness, positioning, communication, etc. and not just determined by a particular input advice.

I am unable to use a controller, I am actually very bad with them.

I’m not new to the game.

Google Console Overwatch League

I don’t think they are official, but there’s money involved and league rules, even if laughable.

Controller precision can never hope to match mouse precision or speed no matter how good a person is with it. Shooters can’t have fair crossplay between pc and consoles unlike other genres like fighters where m+kb controls aren’t a thing.

Because some men just want to watch the world burn.

Maximum enjoyment, minimum compromise. No sense of fair play or sportsmanship, just get one over at others expense.

True, they didnt. All they did was to pretty much ignore the whole console player base, never adapt to their limits, never did a bit of a different balancing for them, and also ignored all their issues including KB+M, free smurf accounts.

Do you prefer expensive or affordable KBM? (Tricky question… :joy:) The current expensive option is a bit similar to “pay to win” (just like Microsoft’s Xbox Elite Series 2 controller).

Xim apex, for PS4…

M+K people on console do it because they think it gives them an advantage. It doesn’t, but let’s keep them thinking that so I can keep diving them and watching them struggle to escape with their limited keyboard movement. Aim is nowhere near the most important skill in this game so they don’t bother me.

What rank do you play in?

Masters and diamond right now. I was almost always in GM before role queue, though, and only ever saw a handful of M+K Widows. Easier aiming can’t get bad players into high ranks.

Every person I know in gm and T500 on ps4 plays with xim. I can’t say what their reasons are. My reason is that I’m missing fingers so I can’t use a controller. I started off using a controller until I had my accident, however.

And honestly, I can see a huge difference in my aim ability using xim. But maneuverability… Is a bit rough as I play ball. M&k was designed for specific speeds… Which my good ol PS4 pro isn’t capable of.

My accuracy with xim is 55%. My aim with controller on ball was between 33% and 43%. Slight difference. I played controller at 80/70 with aim assist window and ease in at 50/98. The settings are different on xim.

So I guess there’s a slight advantage but one that’s big enough to justify any sort of “cheating” accusation.

There’s still the need to have good gamesense… Awareness, maneuverability… mechanics… etc. Aim isn’t everything… But it most certainly helps. If I can kill a cree faster because my aim is better, that’s more uptime in the team fights I have, thus the more value I bring to the table

Well, I’d use M+K if I was missing fingers for sure. Being able to hit all your abilities/triggers without taking your hands off the movement inputs (control sticks in this case) is the biggest advantage of controller so that negates that.

I hit T500 one season on PSN playing Rein/Sombra/Mercy as my top 3 with controller, though, and barely noticed any M+K people on the way. And, according to Overbuff, hitscan heroes have higher accuracy on console than on PC. Interestingly, Xbox is usually about 1% higher than Playstation but both consoles are almost always higher than or are tied with PC.

But yeah, nobody should be reporting M+K people for cheating. It’s just an input difference. Both devices have pros and cons. It’s nothing to get passionate over.

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Couldn’t agree more. And congrats on T500 when u did. That’s huge

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