So, for someone who wants to game using a keyboard and mouse to game but can’t afford to buy a console, your “solution” is to buy a console and not use the control method that they like.
I think you and I have very different standards for what constitutes a solution.
You are complaining that can’t afford PC but what about someone can’t afford a PC but wants to have a fair match when playing on a console?
You can play as you like as long as you accept the fact that consoles are meant to be played with a controller and K&M on consoles is basically cheating.
They’ll get their fair matches 99.9% of the time since keyboard and mouse on console ain’t all that common and even in places where it is, if you’re being significantly held back by your controller, you’ll be a lower rank than them and they won’t even be in your games.
Why should getting into a higher rank require buying extra hardware?
The whole point of buying a console when you can’t afford PC is so everyone uses the same hardware.
It shouldn’t and doesn’t. Buying extra stuff certainly helps but this is absolutely unavoidable already in both the PC and console world. On PC, better peripherals, better internet etc makes you play better.
In the console world, there are thumbstick extensions which allow for a greater degree of accuracy, same for the triggers. People get modded controllers to make certain things easier. And again, your screen’s refreshrate impacts your performance as well as your internet.
There is no way to police what people use to ensure that everyone uses the same stuff. You’ve probably already lost many games to people using better controllers than you, or with better screens than you.
Or… so you can play video games without paying as much money…?
All the “the whole point of…” arguments I’m seeing are a tad on the lackluster side.
Why do people drive trucks instead of cars?
Why do people choose to be Vegan instead of eating meat?
Why do people prefer to use brand x over brand z?
Using a mouse and keyboard aka xim, is not cheating and Kaplan stated as much. He even said stop reporting it.
Some people prefer to use xim because of disabilities with their hands while others just simply prefer it over controller. The PS4 and 5 controller might not be optimal for some people.
If you read reviews, you’ll find that xim really gives no advantages. Its all about personal skill.
Let’s use a reverse example.: Player A can only afford an average PC. Player B can keep his PC updated with the latest and fastest hardware.
Is player B cheating because he can afford to use optimal hardware and Player A can’t?
The only games I play with wheel+pedal combo are Assetto Corsa and Project Cars 2. These are realistic simulators by design so they were implemented with wheels in mind and provide very good force feedback.
My wheel is calibrated so that I have to turn it only in the +/-80 degree range, it’s very comfortable that way. You have some travel time/distance with a keyboard too - you can’t snap the wheel to a specific position with a single keypress.
Most car games are arcade style (focus on fun not realism) and they are usually better with keyboard/joystick/controller.
One of the best controllers is the Xbox Elite Series 2. It’s an expensive controller that provides a definite advantage over the default ones. Paddles on the backside, better dpad, better sticks with configurable height/resistance/curve, basically better everything. Imagine banning it from a game, Microsoft wouldn’t be happy about hurting the sales of their stuff.
Similarly, Sony was licensing and selling the Hori TAC PRO (a KBM adapter). Currently it isn’t available on their website for some reason.
The devs didn’t ban KBM adapters, they probably couldn’t for non-technical reasons. All we got from them are public statements to appease the controller users. Secretly they know that banning KBM doesn’t make much sense.
The funny thing is that we ended up in a situation in which there are KBM users on console but the required KBM-to-controller adapter is expensive and inherits the controller’s aim assist.
Without the drama the devs could add native KBM support without aim assist. Anyone could pick up an affordable PC KBM and connect it directly to the console without an expensive KBM-to-controller adapter. IMO this is what first person shooters will end up with at some point in the future.
You’re asking on a game where smurfs, boosting, and throwing is a reality, why players lack integrity?
Short answer, they lack integrity.
I see m&kb used when playing phone games like COD and others. Also streamed a phone game off my TV. Makes things much easier.
The reason why they don’t bundle consoles with a M&K is the same why PCs aren’t bundled with M&K:
It’s pretty hard to find a single person who doesn’t own a M&K already.
This is a weak argument considering consoles already comes bundled with a controller and all console games are designed with a controller in mind.
They come bundled with a controller because many people who buy a console didn’t have a compatible one before and the games are designed for controllers, because they earn money when people buy controllers, but not when they buy M&K.
Overwatch on the other hand was primarily designed for use with M&K and then slightly adjusted for use with a controller.
Maybe those that cant afford to dish out so much on a PC? I dont see why you feel affected when you could probably disable being matched with MKB players
Yeah because is a PC game ported to consoles and not the other way around.
That doesn’t making it ok to use K&M.
You have KBM players so it seems to be OK to use it. It’s just a taboo topic that makes controller players angry.
Blizzard could easily ban people for using M&K on consoles, but it seems like they have decided not to do that.
At least I haven’t heard of a single case so far.
They know that a very huge part of the console player base is using M&K and my best guess why they are saying “Don’t do it” while not stopping you from doing it is, that they don’t want to poke the hornet nest of angry controller users with a stick.
They won’t get around taking a position on this matter if and when OW2 gets crossplay support, but until then I don’t expect anything to change.
Until console devs start making PC games for consoles and the default input becomes K&M it will never be ok due to the advantage that it gives.
They have no way of detecting it and it is not as serious to deserve a ban even if it still gives advantage.
Also they themselves stated that they are against the use of K&M in OW.
May I add if I’m correct console version overwatch does not even truly support m+kB but if you buy the hardware you can bypass and still use them anyway
K&M is not natively supported by Overwatch, so people have to use a third party device (xim) to allow that functionality. Using a third party device to gain an advantage is called cheating.
Seeing you say this makes me happy also if the devs made it so you can use keyboard and mouse to begin with or even just add it then it will be acceptable otherwise if it’s not supported then I 100 percent agree it’s cheating