Why mercy mains are so toxic?

[Undertone-2728]

Let’s address your points one by one then:

And at some point, it’s hard to even take your posting seriously when you begin by implying the concept of a “hive mind,” while understandably a humorous metaphor, still implies that you actively believe any poster on this forum actively communicates together before posting.

Provided you with my explanation of what a hive-mind is. You didn’t address it. You were provided with information that a Discord among Mercy Mains exists - therefore your statement is objectively wrong.

What you’re creating here is a stereotype. You’re also using the stereotype as a scapegoat (as explained my previous reply).

Objectively wrong. Never spoke about all Mercy players, spoke about specific sub-group.

Your box is “Mercy mains.”

Factually wrong statement.

But you’re not backing those claims up with any evidence,

Provided you with evidence of said sub-group.

You’re just painting people as bad. And at the same time it’s an incredibly convenient shield, because on the off-chance that you’re just objectively wrong , it’s suddenly a “mob trying to silence you.”

Provided you with evidence again.

Understand the difference between a subjective and an objective argument. The burden of proof always falls on the one making the statement. If you want to present your own opinion, that’s fine. If you want to change other people’s opinions, you need to actually present proof of why they should believe you.

Provided evidence.

That’s not specific to Mercy. That’s just the echo chamber effect. People in general want to hear things that validate what they already believe. This is why social media like Facebook, Twitter and Tumblr are extremely popular (as compared to forums) because people can be selective about what they hear.

Doesn’t contradict anything I said.

And the point is, what exactly? You have three examples of bad posters. That does not equate any majority. You’re arguing from the point of a victim: In your position, you can never think yourself wrong.

False analogy and a strawman argument. You wanted proof, now this proof is no longer relevant because my position is that of a victim and therefore automatically invalid. What kind of circular logic is that?

Nice try but you are not really saying anything and just dancing around. Lots of words but not saying anything with substance.

[Bogrim-2180]

I’ve studied psychology extensively. We are not talking about confirmation bias here nor we are talking about anecdotal evidence.

If you’re truly an expert, then it should be easy to explain how it’s not confirmation bias. But you’ll quickly notice there’s no explanation, no substance of arguments in any of these lines:

Nobody is saying that.

(No explanation needed apparently.)

Also I love it how you didn’t address my post. Nice strawman mate, but you are skewing and twisting the argument.

(No explanation needed apparently.)

If I reply in the same manner as you, there’s never going to be progress in the debate. It’s just going to be people saying a statement, then the other person “no” and then making another statement.

Edit: Your above post continued this tendency to the fullest.

[Naz-11562]

It’s a good thing I’m not making or trying to make an argument, then. Lol

[Bogrim-2180]

Then what is the purpose of your replies?

[what-21551]

The discord server isn’t like that. It’s just a place for us to chat In, a lot of the discussion is just balance ideas or generally talking about Overwatch and other games.

I don’t recall anyone ever discussing your rank in the server, so sorry someone said that to you.

[Naz-11562]

Interesting; I was told I was notorious there. I’m almost disappointed

[Undertone-2728]

What explanation do you need? I never said that I think all Mercy players are anything. This is literally a false allegation.

It is a strawman if you try to put words in my mouth I never said. You defeated an argument that was never the original argument, nor my argument. This is textbook definition of a strawman.

Ignored the rest of my points conveniently.

[Almostward-11535]

James how could you…You have disrupted our hive mind…also check pics when you get back. Theres a gif someone made. It’s pretty good

[what-21551]

Not at all. There’s mods in the server to prevent witch hunting and such.

[Naz-11562]

Then it’s a shame that someone is giving your server that sort of reputation, I suppose

[WhateverAlex-1969]

Ya’ll: “Mercy mains are so toxic they spam flag my posts!!! ”
Also ya’ll: Spam flagging the mercy megathread so it’s continually closed and eventually unpinned.

[QuizzyBunny-2512]

I’m one of those mods, should you ever feel that someone you believe to belong to the discord is treating you badly I will make sure to talk to them about it. We do not condone harassment of any kind.

[Naz-11562]

The thread is bugged; it’ll perma lock just like a couple of lgbt threads have. People aren’t necessarily still flagging it. But yeah, it takes quite a few to get to that point. I hear that flags from the threads that were merged into it carried to the megathread, but idk

[Bogrim-2180]

What explanation do you need? I never said that I think all Mercy players are anything. This is literally a false allegation.

The spam is undeniable to the point that they even admit it because they know they will not face repercussions because the hive-mind will upvote any Mercy thread and false-flag any different opinion.

People that are against mass rez returning back or think Mercy is currently fine and balanced are harassed and falsely flagged for being trolls. They actively trolled my Symmetra thread and falsely reported me to where I had to repeal my silence and luckily it only took a day for them to see the evidence and repeal it.

When you use terminology such as “they,” “people” and throw accusations towards these people, then you are boxing players together. If you wanna say “but that’s a straw-man,” even though I’m replying to your exact text then you’re going to need to explain how I’m replying to something you didn’t say.

Ignored the rest of my points conveniently.

Once again, you’re free to explain what relevance they held. This however, is starting to turn into arguing semantics.

[what-21551]

I will make sure to talk to them about it.

Bunny will be sure to send them angry bunny gifs as well

[Undertone-2728]

Now you are conveniently obfuscating my terminology on purpose. I’m very careful with what I say - I never said all Mercy players, I said a specific sub-group of Mercy players. The “People” is also a specific set of people and I provided a qualifier for that as well and context.

Your box is “Mercy mains.

I’ve never said that. You put an argument that I have never made in my mouth. And then proceeded to defeat this argument. That’s classic strawman.

Once again, you’re free to explain what relevance they held. This however, is starting to turn into arguing semantics.

I already explained the relevance. We are not arguing semantics - you chose to ignore the majority of my points and you put forth and defeat an argument that was never mine nor I have claimed - which is a classic case of as strawman.

[Bogrim-2180]

I’ve literally quoted the text passages, repeated your words from it and you still call it a straw man without explaining why. We’re done, bub.

[Undertone-2728]

What explanation do you need?

And at some point, it’s hard to even take your posting seriously when you begin by implying the concept of a “hive mind,” while understandably a humorous metaphor, still implies that you actively believe any poster on this forum actively communicates together before posting.

Clearly wrong as evidenced by other posts in this thread, there is a discord for Mercy forum posters.

What you’re creating here is a stereotype. You’re also using the stereotype as a scapegoat (as explained my previous reply). With other words, you’re putting people inside a box, then you attack that box. “Women are emotional,” “Men are violent,” etc. Your box is “Mercy mains.”

I’ve never claimed nor had issue with Mercy mains. My issue is with a specific sub-group of Mercy mains. I’m a also a Mercy player so I cannot scapegoat myself.

You don’t think you’re doing something wrong? Then start posting some actual facts.

Provided you with evidence of people actively harassing me.

When you use terminology such as “they,” “people”

I provide clear and definitive answer who is “they” and “people”. I provided evidence to support the accusation.

We’re done, bub.

Nice try mate

[Undertone-2728]

Is Ginger part of your Discord Mercy server?

[Ginger-12314]

It’s nice knowing I can live in your head rent free.