Why I Have Yet to Not Despise Mercy's Current State

GlitterToot-2567 · August 17, 2018, 1:32pm

PTR is truly irrelevant. I mean mercy mains took to the PTR forums saying that her rework was brokenly overpowered yet it was released unchanged nontheless. PTR testing does nothing unless you are a pro

Sandity-1715 · August 17, 2018, 1:36pm

Same thing happened with bastions og ironclad that came to live and wrecked havoc for like a week wasn’t it?
Its unfortunate

Macster-11267 · August 17, 2018, 3:27pm

Bump! Bump! Bump!

idSurge-1468 · August 17, 2018, 3:31pm

As long as she loses all I-Frames, thats fine.

‘Lets break it dow…’ dies lost all ult charge

Nicolas-23149 · August 17, 2018, 3:46pm

That would a thing with cast time.

idSurge-1468 · August 17, 2018, 4:03pm

The issue really came about when they gave Mercy i-frames on GA. Remove those, and we are talking.

Brawl-2310 · August 17, 2018, 5:21pm

So you mean that Mercy was able to use res during GA? As many said, Mass Res with invulnerability would have been no issue if it had a fluid cast time.
The fact that it had no preemptive counetr play was more or less the only problem.

Titanium-1686 · August 17, 2018, 6:41pm

What?

Macster-11267 · August 17, 2018, 6:47pm

Some people will never understand.

idSurge-1468 · August 17, 2018, 8:37pm

There used to be a point, early after release where ‘shoot the mercy’ was a viable option. At some point she was buffed to provide invulnerability frames, where she cannot be killed during GA and Rez.

That was the point where she was ‘broken’.

Or maybe its been 2 years and that wasnt the case?

Titanium-1686 · August 17, 2018, 8:39pm

There never were any invulnerability frames on GA. Invulnerability was added to Resurrect, but never to GA.

idSurge-1468 · August 17, 2018, 8:40pm

Are we sure on that? I’ll have to go look, but I remember some seriously weird clips with GA…

Titanium-1686 · August 17, 2018, 8:43pm

Then those could be explained by latency/hitbox irregularities or outright bugs; Mercy never actually received invulnerability on GA.

LunasaysMeow-11459 · August 17, 2018, 9:25pm

Unfortunately I think the devs are gonna leave her in this state. They only want her to not be a must pick and call it a day They’re probably gonna leave her like this for a very long time…

Tylerr-11113 · August 17, 2018, 9:26pm

Well like I’m gonna say to every thread I see now…they’re working on a Torbjorn rework at the moment…we have no idea how long it’ll really take so you’re not going to instantly get what you need a week after this post, I’d say when they finish the Torb rework they’ll probably choose another character to work on…atm Im hoping they choose Bastion but they may just do Mercy with the demands…so be patient and wait until they aren’t working on another hero <3 people who don’t wanna see FIX _________ NOW!!! THEY SUCK , my opinion rn also how about that torb rework…anything could happen lul

Titanium-1686 · August 17, 2018, 9:28pm

Then I guess they’ll have to deal with us on the forums for a very long time.

Sandity-1715 · August 17, 2018, 9:29pm

Did you actually read the post or are you spamming this everywhere?

Tylerr-11113 · August 17, 2018, 9:32pm

Well i read the post and honestly I agree with it, though I’m brinign it up since it’s a point that some people seem to forget and get really mad when Blizzard doesn’t instantly talk about an issue like reverting Mercy. It’s just a reminder of how we should think about things, and hoenstly this is the best post about Mercy even though I’d do some different changes for a more balanced reverted Mercy with the recent changes and stuff but its good

Sandity-1715 · August 17, 2018, 9:37pm

This is a rework.

As 2.0 clearly isn’t working out and mercy’s main kit is now suffering because of said 2.0 rework.

and we all know torbjorns being reworked, its been common knowledge for quite awhile now.

Dysvalence-1915 · August 18, 2018, 7:51am

Wrote comments on the proposed solution when it was mentioned in another thread; crossposting here:

How Mass rez was more fun than now and if it was even healthy

I do agree with most of Titanium’s analysis in the thread but don’t quite agree with all of the solution. For pacify I’m worried about it making breakpoints unpredictable. As for this iteration of mass rez, well cast time failed to balance current rez, and still requires the same comps, positions, and getting lucky with covering the right approach that were required to deal with 1.0. It also has the same undue decisiveness as 1.0, except that the heightened risk of death makes the outcome even more unpredictable and that was already a problem. I also don’t see risk as a sufficient deterrent to waiting for a 4/5 man rez, and doesn’t address how counterintuitive optimal tempo rezzes are; if it were hide and rez would have never become a meme. And much like 1.0, these problems are independent of balance.

That said I really like the 150HP burst heal and being able to use it without dead allies, and would focus on capping the number of players rezzed in exchange for no cast time, and fine tuning with ult charge rate.

Also imo a fast and fluid character should not have an ability that slows them down, let alone an ult, but that’s less of a problem and more of a personal gripe.