Why can't Sombra just be "unfun" to play against?

There’s honestly nothing more ridiculously than hearing some people saying that they rather be dead, respawn, one shot, stunt, etc. than been hacked since not be able to used your abilities for 6s removes you from having completely “control” over your character and there’s no way for you to defend yourself against sombra.

The things people said sometimes makes me feel somewhat sad.

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Saying someone’s equipment is the issue is just stupid you do know that right? if i’m saying i can’t hear it in the middle of the damn match its obviously when there is ult and all hell going on and not on quiet moments we need better visuais then just a few flicking purple pixels on screen

I can only deal with Sombra as Mccree or Hanzo every other character skill dependable is pretty much dead.

Because the things that’s worse then dying to most players, is the feeling of being useless. And that’s how Hack makes you feel.

To be fair, when the vast majority of heroes are dependent on their abilities, being forced to just flail around like a floundering fish for 6 seconds is much more annoying than getting stunned for 0.5 seconds.

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Yeah I read it, did you? There’s nothing in there about bugs. The first paragraph is a nearly-unreadable run-on sentence, though.

"Seriously, out of all the “unfun” things in this game like Shield Bash canceling nearly everything and basically allowing her to Auto Kill a Tracer, Moira’s beam damaging people across the entire objective killing a Pharah quicker than a hitscan, Hanzo busting Tanks better than Reaper even without the abomination that is Scatter Arrow which was in this game for over a year and a half, Junkrat walking up to any 200HP hero shooting one explosive and letting his Concussion Mine finish them off while he flies away with nothing but a scratch, Tracer blinking behind the enemies One-Clipping a Mercy or Zenyatta escaping untouched, getting a useful pick only for Mercy to Resurrect them as if it never even happened stopping us from pushing, Symmetra tossing a moving Shield in front of her while she’s frying people around corners…

Oh but Sombra lands a hack and we gotta butcher her and send her back to F-Tier where she is now statistically the worst hero in the game… Wow."

The man with the hammer his the nail, everything about how sombra is designed screams that blizzard wish that they had never made her, everything she is supposed to do comes with a easy counter to make sure she is “fun to play against” a concern that appears to be absent from balancing decisions on every other hero in the game.
She has been the hardest to play character with the buggiest, inconsistent kit and more handicaps than Trump golfing and yet she gets one insignificant buff a year, stays at the absolute bottom of pickrate since release and people are that she is fine.

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You are never as useless as when you died.

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It’s an irrational feeling.

hack is just as bad as sleep. except you get hacked a lot more than you get slept. you can’t do anything for six seconds it’s even worse when you’re emp’d and then hacked right after. i’d rather get one shot than hacked atleast then i’d die right away

You can still move and shoot, so that’s obviously wrong.

Why? Why would you take no ability usage for 6 seconds during which you can at least defend yourself over 10 seconds of not doing anything plus however long it takes you to get back to the fight that you cannot defend against?
Hack isn’t nearly as powerful and unstoppable as all you irrational Sombra haters make it out to be, but then as a Genji main it’s understandable why you would over-exaggerate a hero that is supposed to counter you.

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move and shoot is not going to keep you alive against ad spamming small hitbox Sombra. i don’t even play genji anymore i got bored of being countered by every new hero. hack was obviously op all i saw on the forums was people asking for it to be nerfed. you want to bring up stats? your a sombra main so you’re obviously biased and you can’t play her to your gold level.

Her stats were not that great all up to grandmasters.

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Not always. Actually you’d be surprised how many players don’t use a headset (or use a low quality one) and aren’t good at listening for sounds in FPS, whether they be footsteps or audio cues for abilities.

People say hack is strong and you are good as dead if hacked. Let’s see how many heroes there are who can’t do anything to combat hack.

Doomfist - He’s done.
Genji - He will be somewhere safe unless he’s going for a kill, in that case it’s too late to hack him. Fan of blades or SS easily cancel hack.
Mccree - He can roll before the hack completes. Double tap. Probably hardest Sombra counter.
Pharah - Too far for hack or in safe place, raining down rockets. Rocket boost, concusion blast and spash from her primary easily cancel hack.
Reaper - What abilities? Also, shotguns.
Soldier76 - Can put down biotic field before hack completes, spash damage with rockets to cancel hack or just spray around. If hacked and withouth biotic field it’s 50/50 aim duel.
Tracer - Blink from hack with ease, spray to cancel hack or recall. If hacked still can fight back if close enough. Your are probably dead.
Bastion - Easily cancel hack with primary or sentry. If hacked you can still kill her with a bit of aim. 400 effective health against her means she has to land her whole clip.
Hanzo - Sonic to counter stealth. Storm arrows can’t be interupted with hack, can be used before the hack completes with ease. Also burst damage denies her retreat. One of her coutners.
Junkrat - Cancel her hack with concussion mine or jump to safety. If hacked fall back into a doorway or a corridor.
Mei - Spray or iceblock to cancel hack. If hacked fall back, Sombra doesn’t have mobility to follow you. If she’s too close and you can’t retreat just freeze her.
Torbjorn - Make Sombra’s life hell with your turret, profit. Also armor +150 effective health. Avoid direct fights unless oneshot with shotgun to the face.
Widowmaker - Cover flanking routs with venom mine. If hacked, dodge, you have small hitbox. Also infrasight to counter invis.
D.Va - Look out for Sombra, spray around and cancel any hack she might do. If hacked turn away and look for cover. You won’t be able to kill her unless she doesn’t have her translocator. 800 effective health.
Orisa - If you are being hacked use all your abilities, they are not canceled by hack.
Reihard - Do quick 360 to cancel any hacks. One firestrike will send her away. If hacked fall back. 700 effective health.
Roadhog - Hook for IK. Take a breather to not feed ultcharge. Easily cancel hack with shotgun. If hacked depending on the range try to fall back. Sombra won’t be able to follow you with her translocator down.
Winston - Zap to deny hack or stealth. Barier to deny hack. Jump to deny hack. Kinda counters Sombra.
Zarya - Bubble to deny hack. Spin around with primary to deny hack and stealth. If hacked fight Sombra. You winning depends on your charge.
Ana - Throw nade before hack completes. Dodge, you have small hitbox. Slow Sombra’s rotation with sleepdart.
Brigite - Cancel hack with shield or with primary in case she is close. If hacked and out of range, hide. If you are in range, fight. Your pasive and armor give you the edge.
Lucio - Accept your death.
Mercy - Whip out your pistol and land few headshots. Dodge, you have small hitbox. Also, your regeneration isn’t interupted by hack.
Moira - Laugh as Sombra can’t hack anything when your damage orbs fly around. Interupt hack easily with primary or fade. If being hacked and withouth fade, throw your heal/damage orb. If hacked you can relly on your lifesteal.
Symmetra - Don’t run in straight line. Hack doesn’t have to bother you.
Zenyatta - You have to aim well. Hide from EMP. Hack doesn’t have to bother you.

So tell me what is it that I don’t see and you do… only Doomfist and Lucio are good as dead.

Edit: Maybe I should make this a separate thread :thinking:

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The thing is, when Sombra initially got changed - if we had all of those changes without the los fixes (aka all the bugs) then she could easily counter Brig, I think.

But Blizz pumped her full of issues.

Perhaps not, but it still gives you a chance to fight back doesn’t it? Especially seeing as all other heroes can out-damage Sombra pretty easily.
Not exactly the I-Win button you make it out to be is it?

The forums also thought that Mei was overpowered for nearly 3 months after launch, funny how perception changes.
Most of the complaints came from Tracer, D.Va, Reinhardt and Genji mains who have had a pretty easy ride until then, the rest were from people not used to playing against her because she was non-existent and widely regarded as a meme hero.

1: I don’t play Sombra in competitive because it’s impossible to coordinate in lower ranks.
2: Yes I am a Sombra main, does it make me biased? Perhaps, but at least I don’t try to exaggerate the power of my counters because I don’t want to see them buffed or fixed and I know more about her than you do when it comes to how strong she actually is and what problems she has.
3: Rank shaming just tells me that you have no argument.

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Hahaha, that’s the best comment ever and describes almost everyone arguing against Sombra buffs perfectly.
“Want to be objective and rational…? Umm… f you!!!”
Thank you for putting yourself in the trashbin so fast.

The vast majority is hardly affected by hack and a large part of the heroes affected by hack are only really screwed when they dive or overextend.

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No. When a full on fight is going on, the ping noise is not really audible. The effect is also not good enough. Especially on sand levels. Where red blends in more often. I personally would want the the entire HUD to glitch out, as hack is going off. As well be purple to match Sombra. So it will stick out more.

Hack affects all the characters differently. Zarya is crippled when hacked. I’d rather be instant killed. With the 0.1 forgiving factor removed. I can shield against it properly. But I still rather be killed off and respawned, if I’m hacked and emp’d right before hack ends.

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Because players are bad and panic. If you don’t have the magic “I survive” button to press to deal with a situation then it’s suddenly the worst game in the world because you have to resort to basic FPS mechanics to survive if your team can’t save you.

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