Why can't Sombra just be "unfun" to play against?

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a tank like rein couldn’t have done anything. even if he put up his shield he’d still be hacked and melted by the other team

dive meta came and a slow character like mei stopped being used. no one complained about dragon/grav because it hardly happened now that hanzo is meta people complain. out of sight out of mind.

this is untrue about me. i want characters who are bad to be buffed. i just think that Sombra is at a good state and she only needs bug fixes. she still counters genji and a good sombra is impossible for me to beat in comp because she counters what i can play. that doesn’t mean i want her nerfed

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That is usually the main problem. Your team is randoms. Who usually don’t give a crap.

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I stopped truthfully complaining about stuff like this once I realized that pretty much every hero in overwatch has at least one super annoying ability. Considering that Sombra’s hack can be stopped if you attack her, its probably one of the more minor annoyances of this game.

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Sym is getting a rework but all Sombra gets is silence

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My headset isn’t low quality and i priorize hearing sounds like footsteps or shots to locate the enemy and i can clearly know from which direction they are coming but if a sombra hacks me from behind the sound is so damn low i can’t even hear her nor have time to react since her hack is even faster than before but this isn’t an issue for me only when i’m playing as Rein.

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I agree with this post… except for in one area: Lucio

I have two accounts, my Main account which is primarily Lucio/Supports/Tanks and my Alt which is Sombra/DPS/Tank/Flex. I want Sombra to be better, and I think the nerf to hack is stupid, but at the same time, hack COMPLETELY turning off Lucio’s songs is stupid and forces him to swap instantly no matter what if she prioritizes the hack on him.

Hack should disable wallride and keep him on his current song, so there’s counterplay for the Lucio to switch to heal song to at least support his team, but also leaving him vulnerable without his movement, and actually makes a hack on a Lucio with speed boost more skillful, rather than just hacking him and he’s useless.

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There’s a visual cue. It’s obvious if you’re paying attention, but it’s almost like orange sparks around the edges of your screen.

It’s hard to prevent it from behind, but… that’s kinda the point? She’s designed as a backline harasser/infiltrator. She should be performing well at doing that.

She doesn’t really perform much anymore. No longer having EMP every fight hurts a LOT and having little value during the mid-fight makes it even worse. She mostly pokes, gets ult charge, and EMPs for a push. Sometimes I’ll get hacks that my team takes advantage of, but more often than not a hacked target won’t die unless it’s a 1v1 with you and them or you EMP’d.

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Blizz doesn’t likes her.
Just take the plunge and make her an assassin esque hero with lots of utility by reducing spread a tad bit more, fixing bugs and nerfing hack a bit.
They keep trying to force her into nothing but a hack tool that can maybe deal damage but it’s clearly extremely flawed, they’re too scared of stealth being frustrating yet not being able to pick a big amount of heroes solely because of the insane dominance of another is A OK.

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Sombra is currently bad, but we can’t tell what state she is truly in, because blizzard isn’t giving acknowledgement of the bugs, not to mention fixing them.

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She would be on the same spot she was before.
Bad.
Her problem is in design, blizz is reluctant on giving her reliable damage.
Until they do, all she will be is a glorified hack dispenser that’s actually really bad at that now since hack has a cd if interrupted and you can’t get quick emp charges.

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I don’t know if it’s because i also use Sombra, but i tend to be aware of her when i’m on my Tank.

Then again, i suppose being an Orisa main also means tracking flankers like Genji and Tracer. Compared to those two, Sombra’s not really an issue even with her hack.

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You know, because some random “pros” said she is unfun and too powerful.

We should totally boycott and protest some of the games and pro players for their biased and unreasonable comment that affect thousands other players. They are even getting paid to ruin our game.

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I really don’t see how adding a 2-sec delay on an interrupted hack is butchering her…

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Removing that additional hack window was more hurting her than this. But still, with so easily lost LoS and the fact every little move can interrupt your hack and send it to cooldown, it’s all annoying.

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Maybe because she was already in a terrible spot before that?
And now she has to deal with that + brig + bugs + her cheese stuff like quick emp completely gone, all just for better hack that you can’t really use effectively.
The kneejerk nerf took away what she gained for trading all this in and left her in a way worse state AND NOW SHE HAS BRIG TO WORRY ABOUT!
Balance team is a joke, it’s been a year and half and they have no idea what they’re doing with her, of course they still happily sell her merch like it’s nothing.

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I’m a Sombra main but it is the first time that I don’t enjoy playing her anymore and I don’t feel “she landed in a good place”

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We had to wait a whole year without any communication from Blizzard for Sym so don’t expect much for Sombra.

I still remember the megathread on the old forums.

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I actually didn’t find her hack as annoying as everyone was talking to. What’s more annoying than getting one shotted from across the map anyways?
Btw, OP, how come you have 54 h in comp and no rank? :thinking:

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may i ask something? let’s assume you are playing mccree. you used your roll to get faster to the enemy/enemies, then used his flashbang on them. you may or may not get a kill, which is in our assumption totally irrelevant. you have both your abilities on cooldown (on a longer one comparing to the time sombra’s hack last). what disables mccree from his full potential for 10s (we want to have full access again, so we dont use roll again until flashbang goes from cooldown as well). does these 10s makes you feel useless as well? it doesnt (or at least it shouldnt and if it does then you shouldn’t be playing this game) you still have your gun and you still fight your way to victory. similarly with ult as in it is on a long cooldown before you can use it again. does the ult charging time makes you useless as well?
yes of course hack can probably disable you from using your ability/ult in crucial moment but so can dying. so can being stunned with any stun ability other heroes have. and it is actually the enemy team job to kill/stun/otherwise prevent you from using your ult to whipe them out.

Sombra’s hack does not freeze your cooldown, it still goes down while you are hacked, you are still getting ult charge. And i personally think that it is more chance to hack someone who has their abilities on cooldown (only requiring them to wait a second or two longer then they would have to without being hacked) than someone who has every single ability ready to use.

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I agree that hack doesn’t need nerfs and is fine to deal with, but implying that hack is worse than steel trap is laughable.