Plenty of people have asked for this. Seagull even mentioned that he wanted them to try 5v5 over a year ago. It’s not like these characters are unrecognizable. It’s taking the characters that you already love and then giving them extras to make them stronger. Winston? Still has all his abilities, but also gets a new secondary fire. Reinhardt? Still has all his abilities, but gets to cancel his charge. Zarya, Still has all her abilities, and now bubbles are more versatile. If blizzard wants to give my favorite DPS some awesome new abilities like that then go ahead. Quit the knee-jerk reactions.
They did just fine against Rein in nearly every match streamed today.
This.
“Why are you complaining? They’re just going to completely change the tank heroes you like playing and make them more like DPS, it’ll be so much fun!”
I watched Roadhog get pretty much bodied on that stream, and I honestly don’t see them buffing him to the point where he’s going to be as viable as a barrier tank.
Barriers are just way too good compared to any other kind of tank. Even after the HP Nerf, the only reason double barrier still isn’t the go-to meta is diminishing returns.
Barriers are just way too good compared to any other kind of tank. Even after the HP Nerf, the only reason double barrier still isn’t the go-to meta is diminishing returns.
The new maps look to be barrier unfriendly, on the whole. A ton of high ground everywhere, multiple flank routes and access points. It’s going to be a lot harder to put a shield in a choke and hold. Mobility will keep things like Rein from being ridiculous. I hope.
I don’t think changing it to 5v5 will help DPS queue times that much better
Oh, I know. Because a lot of tank players are just going to switch to DPS and the queues will probably actually get longer.
Just like how it is now, you follow through with that tank (who had the enemies full attention) and take some space, make some picks, and try to adapt your playstyle and strategy to that of the composition your team has.
Also, you’re complaining very prematurely. It may be hard to understand how OW2 is going to be, and it’s scary thinking of 5v5 with solo-tank. But every role is getting passives and a lot of heroes are getting reworked. There’s no reason to be chicken little when you have no idea how this will all work in practice with OW2. 5v5 isn’t being implemented in OW at all right now, if it was with how the game currently is, yeah that wouldn’t be too fun. But we’re not getting 5v5 with how the balance currently is, everything’s getting reworked to a degree
Solo tanking was bad enough during pre-Role Queue days. I’ve zero interest in suffering through that nightmare again.
Hard pass from me.
I’ve played a lot of tank. As for “maining,” can’t really say I have a main. I guess my only response to this would be, I’m sorry if you think this is a bad change, and I hope it works out better than you expect it will.
I don’t really have a strong opinion on 5v5, but after thinking about it for a while I probably wouldn’t want to play tank because it sounds like too much pressure on one player.
it sounds like too much pressure on one player
Exactly. They literally went with 6v6 in the first place so players could “share the blame” by going 2-2-2.
Off tank heroes like D.Va, Zarya, Roadhog and Wrecking Ball are not going to be wanted as solo tanks. Winston to a lesser extent. How can you justify jumping in or going after a Widow if it means leaving your team unprotected? Especially on defense, anyone not playing Rein, Sigma or Orisa will get yelled at to switch to a shield tank.
Are you dumb? They are going to CHANGE all the tanks for 5v5 to make them all viable. You really expect Blizz to leave all the tank as they are right now? that’s just not using your brain.
Wrecking Ball
main tank
and currently in the live game the best solo tank we have
once again
a bad tank
the devs will not release ow2 with tanks in the state they are right now
there will be changes to not just tanks but DPS and support to compensate for the loss of a tank
yes
I know dps and supports are not tanks
but their still affected by this
good example is sniper nerfs
one less shield/thing to block widow?
she will need nerfs
Are you dumb?
No. Are you?
They are going to CHANGE all the tanks for 5v5 to make them all viable. You really expect Blizz to leave all the tank as they are right now? that’s just not using your brain.
Except LITERALLY NO ONE asked for tanks to be changed. They’re doing this to cater to the DPS players who complain about double shields and long queue times. That’s all this is.
I’m hoping this is a late April fools joke
Except LITERALLY NO ONE asked for tanks to be changed. They’re doing this to cater to the DPS players who complain about double shields and long queue times. That’s all this is.
lemme just copy paste my reply to someone saying this same thing from a different post hold up
“oh Bliz is just trying the make the game better for dps players while also empowering tank players with more carry potential and buffs? Nope! Bliz just hates tank players and is just only every giving dps players what they want”
Sounds like people will have to learn how to use the map and positioning instead of chewing crayons behind the blue rectangle.
5v5 is a good move. None of the things you talked about can be verified as you haven’t played the build.
Called it btw:
There’s only one tank per team, on a 5v5 situation. I don’t think this is anecdotal and they effectively turned the game into 1-2-2, which is a great step imo (I assume 1-3-2 was too oppressive), plus it conforms to most team-based games philosophy of 5 being the golden number.
“oh Bliz is just trying the make the game better for dps players while also empowering tank players with more carry potential and buffs? Nope! Bliz just hates tank players and is just only every giving dps players what they want”
Why are literal pro tank players mad if it’s such a good change?