Thats not what i stated
There is legit reporting, and there is false reporting which is breaking the rules of the game
It’s not my personal notion of a hero’s primary function.
The devs have assigned a role to each hero.
You queue as a specific role, then choose one of the hero’s Blizzard assigned to that role.
Moira is a support hero. Her primary function is to heal the team.
https://overwatch.fandom.com/wiki/Support
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Fandom is not an official blizzard site.
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Again, how would ‘only dealing damage as Moira’ fit under cheating? The reason why the language in that is so broad is because they have the freedom to determine whatever situation as cheating.
If you were win-trading, that could fall under both Cheating and Gameplay Sabotage.
If you’re locking Moira just to deal damage, that falls under gameplay sabotage because you’re 1 of 2 in the only role that can heal effectively.
I never said it was cheating. I said it was gameplay sabotage as per the game’s definition of same.
https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/about
“Support heroes empower their allies by healing, shielding, boosting damage, and disabling foes. As a support, you’re the backbone of your team’s survival.”
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Then why bring up that it’s not what cheating is defined as? It’s basically the same as I said. You can’t use third-party applications that grant you an advantage. The OP is whining because he got a thrower Moira and probably should’ve known it’s GPS not Cheating.
A support’s primary goal would be to support the team. How they choose to do that is up to them.
You might as well say a tank isn’t a tank unless they have a shield, despite the fact we have multiple tanks who would say otherwise.
Not only is the fandom wiki created by, ya know, the fans and not officially Blizzard, so using it as a liable source is already out the window, but it also says they help increase damage output.
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I pointed out that’s not all the game defines cheating as.
Incorrect. Blizzard’s definition of the Support category is quite clear:
https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/about
“Support heroes empower their allies by healing, shielding, boosting damage, and disabling foes. As a support, you’re the backbone of your team’s survival.”
Agreed. A poor choice on my part. I should have stayed with the official definition which I subsequently referenced.
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Healing is one of four described functions, with none of them being emphasized more than the other.
Reaper supports the team by shooting enemies in the face until they die. This supports the team by reducing incoming damage as dead enemies don’t deal damage. He also does healing, albeit for just himself.
Tldr, the justification, on this thread, for supports not even trying to do their job is frankly ridiculous.
If you want to carry via picks to make up for crap teammates, then pick dps, or off tank, like everybody else.
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It’s the very first listed function, thus inferred to be the primary function.
Also note that not one of the listed functions of the Support role is anything like “doing damage to enemies” or “killing enemies”.
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Why are you so insistent on this arbitrary distinction of yours that a player has to be intentionally trying to lose the game for it to be considered gameplay sabotage, where does it actually say anything like that?
You have already given the example multiple times of a Mei who is trolling her team by walling them in spawn, and that you consider that sabotage, but what if she does it multiple times throughout a match WHILE ALSO eventually trying to win? Maybe she stops doing it later on in the match and starts playing seriously, but does that erase the fact that she sabotaged her team for the first however-long of the match? Hell no, she still deserves to be reported for the part of the match that she was sabotaging for.
What exactly makes you think that it isn’t possible for a player to sabotage their team and still try to win? it may seem like an oxymoron, but maybe some people really are just so twisted that they enjoy putting their team at a disadvantage so that if they actually do manage to win they can feel that much more awesome for “carrying” the team after deliberately forcing a handicap on them… it still isn’t remotely fair to put the unfortunate players who got stuck on a team with them through that, regardless of the actual match result.
So no matter how much you try to deny it, a Moira who only focuses on DPS and makes little-to-no effort to heal her team even when she had plenty of opportunities to do so but instead chose not to is obviously sabotaging, no matter how much she tries to claim that she was “trying to win”.
Now if a Moira is focusing mostly on DPS, but still healing her team when it’s convenient to do so, then that’s a different story, but I think you know full-well that that isn’t the type of player that this thread is about, or do you really think that if a Blizzard employee reviews match footage and sees a Moira run right past a low health teammate with a full bar of heal spray and completely ignores them even as they are sending “I need healing!” pings, that they would find that completely acceptable behaviour?
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i distrust the ranks at this moment. Pretty sure we need at least half a year for all those roles to get used to and be accurate enough.
Such a heavy cut like splitting the SR in three seperate divisions wont go without making the system innacurate until enough games are played by everyone.
For a player to be reported for Gameplay Sabotage, they must intentionally be trying to disrupt and harass their teammates or actively trying to lose.
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There is no emphasis or priority, meaning each function is of equal importance. A dead enemy is a disabled enemy.
If Blizzard didn’t want supports to do damage, they would not have given supports the capability to do damage.
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You are making an assumption.
That’s disingenuous of you to say, since you know very well that Overwatch is a shooter game.
So are you.
How is playing a role who’s primary purpose is keeping their teammates alive with healing abilities and then actively refusing to heal anyone but themselves, thus putting the rest of the team at a clear and completely unnecessary disadvantage not disruptive behaviour? How is letting a teammate right in front of you die when you could potentially have saved them if you’d just stopped DPSing for 2 seconds to give them a quick spray but instead choosing to ignore them not an act of sabotage?
This really is just basic common sense… even if Blizzard doesn’t explicitly spell out EVERY possible act of sabotage that doesn’t mean that they wouldn’t consider something an act of sabotage on a case-by-case basis, it ultimately comes down to a judgement call by the person reviewing the report, which is precisely why reporting behaviour that you genuinely believe to be sabotage is the appropriate thing to do.
At worst that particular report gets ignored, but if they carry on with the same behaviour and keep getting reported by different people over multiple games then their account will be flagged for review eventually, but at the very least I don’t believe for one second that Blizzard would ever try to chastise the people who made the reports if they were clearly made in good faith.