There is ok with, and there are rules
I prefer to heal first as a support, and i prefer my teammates who are healers to do the same
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honestly the mercy’s that pull their guns out are fin awesome. thats how i can tell pro mercy’s because they’ve already mastered healing, and incorporated their damage ability to their game.
i truly believe the players in this game that play aggressive are the good ones, and the ones that play back and scared are the bad ones. it’s so evident in every game i play between the good and bad players. the good ones do use their dps quite a bit, and that goes for mercy, moira, lucio, etc. healer dps is very underrated with its hit ratio, and often the best at finishing off classes.
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Thats not part of the rule being discussed
Nope. It’s crap healing. I’m trying to main tank and wonder why I’m dropping dead every few seconds.
Maybe as I got picked early my Moira decided that I was worthless and not worth supporting.
Funnily enough, in a run of later wins, I managed from 3-1 to 5-1 kd on Sigma and Orisa as my supports actually did their jobs.
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Given that i wish to obey the rules of the game, i would not report it
That said, i would not be happy with said player unless they proved to be an extraordinary killer with that pistol
I’m talking about no healing, not being aggressive ( which is cool. I’ve seen Kabaji in action on Mercy. Sick stuff).
1500 is not “no healing”, nor is the 5000 or more from the earlier example
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yeah i actually missed the part where u said no healing…but honestly ive never played with a mercy who did no healing and just shot all game. i swear i cant ever remember that happening.
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Yeah. Afraid I can’t accept Megadodo’s pro dps Moira arguments when he says they’d be okay with a Mercy doing zero heals in a game.
Still, maybe he’s right, and the reporting rules really are that stupid…
Once again, you take half the quoted information and apply it to your attempt at arguing against it. And once again, you fail.
To repeat, since you clearly skimmed over it, gameplay sabotage is “actively harassing or disrupting your own team through the use of game mechanics or player actions”.
That is a direct quote from the in game reporting system.
Actively disrupting ones team is not just using abilities, but also player actions.
A Moira not healing her team. That’s a player action which is actively disruptive to the team.
Thus DPS Moira is reportable as gameplay sabotage.
It could not be more crystal clear.
But, as you’ve done numerous times in the past, I’m sure you will try and find some way around it by half quoting or misquoting.
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how is that ‘disrupting the team’? that moira is not disrupting you by not healing you. disruption would mean he is screwing with you DIRECTLY in a negative way. all he is doing is playing his class as a dps. you might take that personally and think he is doing it to screw with you in particular, but that is only YOUR perception of it, and it definitely can’t be proven just based on a Moira going out and doing damage instead of healing. he could very well be thinking he’s accomplishing more to win by doing that than sitting there healing.
I’ve watched the replays, it’s almost the first thing the enemy Dva will do when that damage orb gets fired in their direction. It’s called skillful playing, anticipating what the enemy might try and do and positioning yourself accordingly to intercept them when they will do.
Meanwhile, on our side, the tanks start to crumble, barriers are breaking, everyone is being pushed back, Moira ‘needs to recharge’ and BOOM! 'Touch from afar! as it gets eaten by Dva YET AGAIN and usually by this time we’re down at least 3 and we’ve lost the fight.
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I think this is the only sensible thing you’ve contributed thus far.
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replays of what? moira dictates the orb throw, not the DVA. and there isn’t always a DVA in every game, let alone one chasing a damage moira ball everywhere.
sure, if there is a DVA and if one is thrown near them and if they see it, they’ll eat it, but there are a lot of IF’s in that scenario.
my damage balls when i play moira rarely get eaten by DVA’s, because they simply cant be there most of the time when my CD pops. and honestly when i throw moira damage balls i’m throwing them at back line dps more or less. DVA’s are generally charging in the front lines.
When there isn’t a Dva, the orb almost always bounces off the map somewhere where it provides no value to the team.
In fact, you’d almost HOPE it does, because an orb carelessly fired that doesn’t confirm any kills and only ‘tickles’ charges enemy support ultimates. Ashe players make this same mistake with dynamite. Lobbing TnT over barriers and getting no kills but charging support ultimates is a good way to ensure Lucio has a Sound Barrier every team fight.
In competitive, you need to do everything you can to get your ultimate WHILE mitigating the chances of the enemy team getting their ultimates. It’s why Hanzo, Widow and Doomfist see a lot of play in competitive, because the likelihood of them confirming kills without charging enemy support ultimates is pretty darn good.
My god this thread is long. Obviously someone who plays the game in a different way than you wish is not against the rules. However, that doesn’t mean you can’t report. You can report anybody or anything. You can report someone just for being in your game. That’s what this falls under.
those damage balls really suck if you’re playing back line dps without a ae healer. or just a healer who isn’t on top of everyting in general. to pretend it just tickles people when it can make backline dps run for health packs is untrue. And there probably isnt a better combo in the game for taking out back line classes than damage orb, fade, and rclick spam on low hp target right now. couple moira balls with diving hamsters/winstons, etc. and it certainly makes a difference.
That’s not what this is about.
This is about a player queuing as support but then not performing the support role in game, choosing instead to only DPS.
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It is not gameplay sabotage just because they don’t conform to your personal notion of a hero’s “primary function.” There is no established rule book as to what such functions are, so reporting them for breaking said rules just doesn’t make any sense.
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It happens to damage players ALL THE TIME.