Valkyrie Playstyle

[anon97979124]

Everyone’s entitled to their own opinion, that’s what the forum is for anyway

[DvaSlaysEU-2809]

Cool. Don’t know why you trying to disprove it then.

[anon97979124]

Please quote the part where I tried to “disprove” something, oh that’s right I never did. There’s a difference between stating a fact and trying to refute something

[anon44657261]

Damn no tldr? Valks fine I guess it gets the job done.

[Quest-11845]

“Numbers meaning nothing” is subjective opinion. How “simple” you assume this concept to be is also subjectively irrelevant.

Ofc it is subjective. It’s not like I lack objective reasoning as to why I believe that. This is a nonsense statement.

• Mercy is one of the most nerfed heroes among the roster.

• Mercy has also had the most unbalanced kit since the rework.

• Valkyrie was a mustpick for a LOT longer.

• Valkyrie Mercy had almost a 100% winratre - something mass res mercy never had.

• With her winrates rising once again, this rework overall has proven to once again, be a huge failure.

That’s cute. All I want is balance, everything you said is just nitpicky complaining. I cbf with it.

1 nerf or 50 nerfs, it doesn’t matter to me so long as in the end it is balanced. I’m not here to defend Blizzards approach, I’m just here to say I desire a varied and viable roster. Where Mercy is right now looks really good in accordance to the rest of the roster.

I have no reason to prioritize the opinions of you Mercy mains over anyone else’s.

Objectivity. Crazy concept, right?

[DvaSlaysEU-2809]

It’s not a fact that Mercy is not underpowered though as the whole point is subjective… Also,

Eh maybe slightly underpowered but certainly not as bad as some other characters such as bastion, torb, symm etc. Ana is definitely better than her now but that’s how it should be. The lowest skill support shouldn’t completely overshadow the highest skill support

What was your intention with this under than to disprove what I said:

Right now I see Mercy as close to being balanced (close to being underpowered) because they’ve successfully made the rest of her kit garbage to compensate for Resurrect on E. That’s just my opinion though.

Im cool with people stating their opinion but if they are going to try and disprove an opinion and play it of as fact… OH BOI.

[anon97979124]

It’s called an argument bud lol, I’m not “disproving” what you said. Besides I never even disagreed with you on her being underpowered. I said she is underpowered lol but not as bad as torb bastion & co

[RevertMercy-1304]

Ofc it is subjective. It’s not like I lack objective reasoning as to why I believe that. This is a nonsense statement.

You admit to being subjective, but pointing out your subjectivity after you implied that your statement was factual is nonsensical? Sorry I disagree. You’re giving an opinion there.

That’s cute. All I want is balance, everything you said is just nitpicky complaining. I cbf with it.

“You’re right, and you proven me wrong, but I can’t disprove it, so I’ll just call what you said as nitpicky”

You are really drumming up a solid argument there aren’t you?

Whether you like it or not, those are facts. And if you took a few minutes to actually associate yourself with them, you wouldn’t need to rely on your own opinion to prove a point, just a word of advice there for you.

1 nerf or 50 nerfs, it doesn’t matter to me so long as in the end it is balanced. I’m not here to defend Blizzards approach, I’m just here to say I desire a varied and viable roster. Where Mercy is right now looks really good in accordance to the rest of the roster.

Except… Mercy’s winrates are rising again. So… Your point has been thus far - moot. If you truly believed in Mercy’s balance, this rework should be a clue to you that it hasn’t been working. But after looking at your post history, you seem to be so against the idea of mass res or any type of revert (which in itself is hilarious, considering that they already reverted the hero) that you instead turn a blind eye to reality. I apologize if this news is uncomfortable to read, but that is where we are right now.

I have no reason to prioritize the opinions of you Mercy mains over anyone else’s.

Objectivity. Crazy concept, right?

I’m sorry, where did I ever say in my post that you were prioritizing the opinions of Mercy mains over anyone else? Oh… That’s just you projecting your discrimination against mercy mains again. You really need to stop doing that, it really weakens your overall argument.

You can “prioritize” whatever opinion of whatever “main” you want. It still won’t change the facts.

Mercy is once again, becoming unbalanced. Because rez on E is powerful enough to turn her back into a must pick. Her winrates are once again rising, which has proven that this rework has been a failure.

So what do you suggest they nerf this time to make “balanced” again while still keeping her fun to play? I doubt you have an answer to this question, but if you do, let’s hear it!

~Sincerely Yours xoxo,
a Lover of True, Fair, and Fun Balance.
xavvypls

[DvaSlaysEU-2809]

It’s called an argument bud lol, I’m not “disproving” what you said.

Started an argument over an opinion? That makes sense…

Besides I never even disagreed with you on her being underpowered. I said she is underpowered lol but not as bad as torb bastion & co

it’s not like she’s garbage tier

There were multiple ways to interpret this…

[anon97979124]

I give up lmao

[Qendel-1288]

I baked some pumpkin pies tonight.

[DvaSlaysEU-2809]

that was quick.

[RevertMercy-1304]

I baked some pumpkin pies tonight.

Pumpkin pies are lush

~Sincerely Yours xoxo,
a Lover of True, Fair, and Fun Balance.
xavvypls

[Quest-11845]

You admit to being subjective, but pointing out your subjectivity after you implied that your statement was factual is nonsensical? Sorry I disagree. You’re giving an opinion there.

Ofc this is my opinion that I’m stating. Backed by evidence and consideration. How are you having difficulty understanding this?

“You’re right, and you proven me wrong, but I can’t disprove it, so I’ll just call what you said as nitpicky”

I have said nothing to the effect that you are right. In fact, I consider that for the most part the majority of what you say is wrong. I consider your approach and perspective incredibly basic and open to contradiction and hypocrisy. Selective.

You are really drumming up a solid argument there aren’t you?

I hope so. Who knows?

Whether you like it or not, those are facts. And if you took a few minutes to actually associate yourself with them, you wouldn’t need to rely on your own opinion to prove a point, just a word of advice there for you.

Nothing you have every said, Xavvy, has ever struck me as well argued. You have always appeared as a biased and emotional advocate of Mass Rez and that is all.

Except… Mercy’s winrates are rising again. So… Your point has been thus far - moot.

Has nothing to do with anything I’ve said. We’ll see how it goes.

If you truly believed in Mercy’s balance, this rework should be a clue to you that it hasn’t been working

I’m not approaching it in a naive black and white manner. I’m seeing how things develop. Again, this should be obvious but for some reason you struggle realizing it.

I apologize if this news is uncomfortable to read, but that is where we are right now.

It’s not. It’s just annoyingly repetitive and childish.

I’m sorry, where did I ever say in my post that you were prioritizing the opinions of Mercy mains over anyone else?

You didn’t. I just grouped you in with that and said I have no reason to prioritize what you say over anyone else’s. That’s all. You are just regurgitating white noise I’ve heard for a year now. Largely inconsequential.

That’s just you projecting your discrimination against mercy mains again. You really need to stop doing that, it really weakens your overall argument.

It really doesn’t. I’m not discriminating against Mercy mains. I want Mercy to be in a good, healthy, and viable spot. You are just straw manning as you have no way of actually invalidating any of the legitimate points I’ve brought up.

You can “prioritize” whatever opinion of whatever “main” you want. It still won’t change the facts.

Sure, child.

Mercy is once again, becoming unbalanced. Because rez on E is powerful enough to turn her back into a must pick. Her winrates are once again rising, which has proven that this rework has been a failure.

Yeah that’s pretty premature and presumptuous. It’s cute how you fail to realize how bad your argument is.

So what do you suggest they nerf this time to make “balanced” again while still keeping her fun to play? I doubt you have an answer to this question, but if you do, let’s hear it!

Oh damn and t hen you go all memey. Classic “Mercy main.”

Seriously you aren’t doing your cause any good. You’re best off sitting this one out.

[anon97979124]

I’d like a slice (with some cool whip)

[DvaSlaysEU-2809]

Undertone, I see you.

[Qendel-1288]

And I made everything from scratch.

[Undertone-2728]

But at least we can actually back up our arguments with reason rather than trying to reinforce them with an overused meme.

What reasons mate, you are the dude that thinks mechanical skill shouldn’t be part of balance. You don’t have arguments, you have opinions. Also fun is subjective and shouldn’t be brought as an argument when it comes to balance.

Okay, fine. We’re a “cult”.

At least you’ve finally started to acknowledge your toxic hive-mind. Now if only rules actually applied to you and obvious troll/spam threads like this one were properly reported and locked up, that would be great. Stop false-reporting people, up-voting your threads with smurfs and general mob justice actions and you won’t be hated by the majority of the community.

I disagree. Two wrongs don’t make a right. And yes, if you post your own thread into someone else’s thread, that is in fact bad etiquette - in fact, you could even say that it qualifies as spamming.

Dude this thread is an absolute spam/troll thread. The only reason it isn’t locked is you got all the Reverts up-voting it.

[DvaSlaysEU-2809]

What reasons mate, you are the dude that thinks mechanical skill shouldn’t be part of balance.

Isn’t this the third variation of ad hominem? Correct me if I’m wrong. His past claims does not make his present claims invalid.

[Undertone-2728]

If you don’t think mechanical skill should be part of balance than I question the validity of any balance changes you promote/endorse/suggest.