Well then, if you want her healing per second to be equal to Moira or Ana ultimates. My small Valkyrie rework should agree with you. Non?
Except it will cause further problems on different hero.
Itās acceptable rework, since it finally allows to keep teammates alive, but it has not very nice consequences for Moira. Would rather avoid power race between healers, just because their ults are so similar in what they do.
Which hero would it pose problems to?
Moira? If I go into detail on the rework (which I might) it might clear some things up.
- Nerf that duration to 6-8 seconds
- Increase that healing to say 80-100 Hps. (Chain beams so itās got to be weaker as to not outshine Moira.)
- Increase damage boost (canāt remeber how much it amplifies base kit so Iām not going to set a number)
- Increase Rez cast time to 1.25 seconds or 1 second.
Iām not saying Iāve solved everything thatās wrong with Mercy but I think Iāve done a fair job at dealing with some issues.
Ok, here are problems your rework can cause:
- Coalescence now objectively worse: extra 40 hps vs harder to heal everyone with ult, which doesnāt increase your survivability unlike Valkyrie;
- If you buff damage boost (damage boost of Mercy is 30%), you run into Supercharger territory. Can really mess with itās viability, if Valkyrie gets close to 50% damage boost;
Itās āhow to fix one ult and break two moreā, thanks to Valkyrie being low budget Transcendence/Supercharger combined.
So remove chain beams?
That would solve both problems in one action!
Also just a gritty little bone to pick, Moira ultimate does up her survivability by a fair amount, infinite regen during the duration and she gains a movements speed bonus. Not to mention she can both heal and dps during it.
Surprisingly, it wonāt solve problem. Even with Coalescence, you generally need to heal only one player, that is leading your team, or taking most of the beating. With Valkyrie itās much easier to do.
Coalescence doesnāt heal Moira, if she doesnāt deal damage.
I literally just replied to you on another thread you made about this exact same topic. Are you spamming the forums?
Iāll just link my post from the other thread since itās basically what Iād say here anyway.
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/overwatch/t/valkyrie-please-remove-it/259663/22?u=lumin-1385
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Problem is, rez is too powerful for ability, and will pull down whole kit. And it canāt be removed either, since itās signature ability.
So there are no other options to have decent ultimate, other than with rez in it. You can put all restrictions you want, but reversing death is way too strong to have as regular ability.
Valkyrie, on the contrary, makes decent E ability, but as ultimate isnāt that great.
It could be removed. Yes, itās a signature ability but so were scatter arrow and shield generator. The dev team has shown a willingness to remove core abilities in the past.
The thing is, it isnāt coming back as an ultimate. Itās just not going to happen. There is no way that it happens. So, if you want to change out valk or rez on E then rez has to go away entirely and Valk has to be something new not just mass res revisited. The dev team will NEVER revert. It will not happen regardless of what I personally want or do not want.
They already did reverts many times. And Hanzoās signature ability is his sonic arrow, while for Symmetra itās her turrets.
Really? Iāve never noticed that. Well you learn something new everyday.
She still gets increase in movement speed and can damage her opponents for more. Also your comparing 2 very dirasricly different support heroes. Yes they both are main healer but Moira is focused around bulky comps who need a lot of AOE healing, Mercy is a single target healer so works best with lower health comps.
If youāre running both Moira and Mercy in a game youāre 1) doing something very wrong 2) either picking mercy or moira in the wrong situation 3) Mercy naturally outshines Moira anyway, her mobility allowes her to tend to the wounded a lot faster, she often can oitheal Moira if your decent at Mercy. Moira has a niche and so does mercy. Youād find that naturally theyād outshine depending on the comp theyāre working with.
I donāt need think Mercy would step on Moira toes at all, yes Moira pickrate may go down but Mercy should rise from, that measly 48% that you ever so love complaining about.
i donāt want to sound rude but you donāt seem interested in even keeping your mind open about Valkyrie and about my idea. You seem very set on finding flaws with Valkyrie and my suggestion so your idea is put in favour which isnāt very nice, not the way to have a discussion.
I mean you may think different however that is how I feel about the matter.
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Probably main issue with Valkyrie, is it being boring. You just hover behind frontlines, while chain beams do all the work. Itās trying to do things you already supposed to do with base kit.
As for flaws, old ult had them too, but it was both unique and powerful.
Itās the main thing holding Mercy back. Without Valkyrie, she could have an actual ultimate with Mass Res on Q, or some other Ultimate that is actually engaging, impactful, and rewarding to play. Valkyrie is hated both by people who play Mercy, as well as people who donāt play her, and since the rework Mercy was made OP for 5 months straight - Being very unfun to play against. Afterwards she was given 12+ nerfs, losing what little impact she had in the fight, and resorting to being a glorified spectator cam - besides being one of the most unrewarding ults in the game, itās very unfun to play with.
Overall, I believe the rework has been a huge failure, and Blizzard would be doing everyone a favor with itās removal, a Revert of Mass Res + Tweaks / Another Rework, and a new E ability. Something many people wanted since day one. 
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Yeah I really dislike Valk, I played since launch and have took big breaks so coming back from Mass ress to Valk was a serious downgrade. Iām still shocked they class that as an ultimateā¦ compared to other support kits like anti-nade, nano, trans etc.
Could at least make both Heal and Dmg boost beams activate at the same time during Valk.
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Yes, get rid of Valkyrie & just make GA independent mobility.
Mass rez isnāt coming back though
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Reduce Valkyrie Active Time to 10 seconds
While Resurrect is off cool down and Valkyrie is active Resurrect becomes an AOE Resurrect.
Ta da. Mercy is fixed.
I personally feel that it would work a lot better as an e ability, rather than an ultimate. Either way, I agree. Itās been a serious downgrade indeed. 
At that point I would rather prefer Mercy to have res charges, that are earned through her healing / damage boost, which are then used exclusively in Valkyrie. Nonetheless, that would certainly be an upgrade over what she has now. 
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a Lover of True, Fair, and Fun Balance.
xavvypls 
I donāt want the free flying gone though :c I love that about Mercy. Can we move it to an ability or a short passive? I really do love Valkyrieā¦
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To be fair she would still be earning the power of a big rez again. I just feel as if that will give the power that Valkyrie is lacking whilst keeping Valkyrie as an ultimate without making it broken. It will promote CD management and not punish players by burning an ultimate to Tempo Resurrect which is the optimal way of using Resurrect. But give that burst impact that Mercy is lacking.
Just turn GA into a free flight on a resource/countdown-CD
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